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Suppose you spend billions on a problem, and it gets twice as bad? Welcome to homelessness in Los Angeles . . .



Chart above - I blame drugs for the doubling of homelessness in Los Angeles. And mental illness. And probably government ineptitude . . .

Apparently nobody can say for sure how much money is being spent to help the homeless. Or where it’s going. Today's headline (link below) is the possible eradication of the Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority. It spends $2.4 billion a year. On 73,000 homeless people. That’s $30,000 a year per person. For a tent, and an EBT card, and . . . ?

Los Angeles might not be the worst in the nation, though. In New York, some audits suggest the city is spending $50,000 per homeless person each year. Of course, those lucky souls live in hotel rooms provided by the government. In Los Angeles the solution is apparently tents lining the sidewalks in posh shopping districts, in parks, at the beach, and in front of city hall. $30,000 would buy a LOT of tents, meals at KFC and Wendy’s (which accept homeless EBT meal cards). And controlled substances. That’s a lure some people might find irresistible.

The head of the LAHSA is a woman named Va Lecia Adams Kellum. She’s an “ally” of Mayor Karen Bass, and earns $430,000 a year. That’s not as bad as the LA “water chief” who earns $750,000 and is complicit in the $150 billion fire. But still . . .

Wait, it gets worse Ms. Adams-Kellum was caught last month trying to funnel over $2 billion in city contracts to her husband’s company, Upward Bound House. State law prohibits government officials from authorizing spending in which they or their families have a stake. Ms. Adams-Kellum has described the multi-billion-dollar deal with her husband as “an oversight”. Stop laughing. All of this is really true. See the link at bottom.

As of this morning, Ms. Adams-Kellum is still on the job, drawing her $430,000 salary. So is the $750,000 a year water chief, Janisse Quinones. She drained the reservoir in the middle of peak fire season. There have been no charges, no arrests. The Los Angeles District Attorney is George Gascon, another known associate of Mayor Karen Bass. He earns $400,000 a year . . .

Why did homelessness double in Los Angeles? It would be ludicrous to claim this was the goal all along. Like most malfeasance, helping the homeless probably started with good intentions. But when you give money away . . . or food, or narcotics, or tents and space to pitch them. . . people are going to show up. It just works that way. Like a backyard barbecue. If you grilled it, they will come.

I have zero confidence that if LA Mayor Karen Bass takes control of that $2 billion in misspent homeless money, and appoints another crony handle things, that this will get better. At the very least, as a lifelong “community activist” Mayor Bass is out of her depth. As her lavishly paid direct reports apparently are. Or possibly this is a massive case of cronyism and corruption. If Mayor Bass wanted to funnel money to her friends, she should have set up something where they get paid for NFT artwork. That’s less obvious, and it wouldn't burn down the city, or attract drug addled vagrants.

I’m just sayin’ . . .

Los Angeles moves to take control of homelessness agency, citing audits that found reckless spending

L.A. City Audit Uncovers $2.4 Billion in Untracked Homelessness Spending - LAmag

LAHSA CEO Signed $2.1 Million in Contracts with Her Husband’s Employer. Agency Calls it an ‘Oversight.’ | California County News
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ArishMell · 70-79, M
I don't know California's geography, so this may be a different area of the State.

Last year a documentary on BBC Radio Four revealed an unexpected further homelessness problam - in of all places, "Silicon Valley", and of people working in the big IT firms.

They are attracted there by the high salaries but housing is scarce and even costlier. The programme was at pains to say most were not living under railway-bridges, but instead lived in vans, some in tents, or begged living-room floor space with colleagues. A handful were found sleeping on the all-night local buses!

So classed as homeless but not totally on the streets, nor from illness or drug addiction.


A somewhat similar situation exists in London, also among people on professional salaries (e.g. teachers, nurses) but unable to afford even a tiny flat. These too are not on the streets but instead lodging with friends or still with their parents.

The definition of "homeless" in both cases being "unable to afford own home to buy or rent."
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@ArishMell thank you for your reply. i've read similar articles. in fact, the city government of San Francisco is renting RVs for the homeless . . . but they're getting ripped off. $5,000 for an RV which is permanently parked.

the most common "unhoused" (different than homeless) scenario in california is the Amazon worker who lives in their pickup truck camper in the warehouse parking lot. Amazon was at the forefront of recognizing the affordability crisis, and was one of the first to pioneer this solution. They can't afford to pay $50 an hour to someone to be a warehouse picker, but it's not costing them anything to let workers live in their trucks.

the majority of the public angst comes from tent takeovers of public spaces: sidewalks in shopping districts, pacific beaches, upscale suburbia full of mini-mansions.

people - in general, not just progressives - seem to be okay with homelessness provided they don't have to see it. But when they do see it, they start calling their elected officials and police to have eyesores removed.

Governor Gavin Newsom is starting to accommodate them, as part of his 2028 presidential campaign aspirations.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@SusanInFlorida Thankyou for the explanations.

A very good point that - it's fine while out of sight.
exchrist · 31-35
Work-shelter programs have some success. Nomad camps like the native American tribes had is an option. Life is very expensive in So. Cal. Some people would rather be homeless. The rent is too damn high! Lot of veterans,? Usually.

If the homeless dont want to be helped; the programs\resources to help those individuals should be shifted to meet basic needs. Health care food\water, clothing; Or other needs. Doing this will reduce crime and "nuisance effects" the homeless are having on everyone else.
Work shelter and community living are usually most successful. Maybe counseling support too. Trauma is typically very common among the homeless\that population.
Is there alot of veterans?
Also what sectors of the economy are most in need of employees? Effort to connect the homeless to those would be wise or try to get them involved in water conservation?
Hemp agriculture for petroleum oil (thc is a hydrocarbon soluable in alcohol becoming gasoline) would lowers fuel prices. Try that? Will work for food kinda thing.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@exchrist people come to california for the beaches, good weather, easy ways to score and get high. probably not because there are job oppportunities with salaries aligned with the cost of living there.

Sorry everyone - we can't ALL live within 10 miles of the beach. Try Iowa or North Dakota . . . there are plenty of jobs, and affordable housing. Don't be like lemmings rushing to the sea.
exchrist · 31-35
@SusanInFlorida a valid contention. Its all the media being produced in CA, America, and in general? ppl think life is actually like in the movies videogames etc? I like iowa
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
The problem of homelessness in LA is akin to the immigration problem in America generally. People tend to want to move to a place which they see as more user friendly for some major reason to escape a place where they dont feel safe or able to survive.. And the nature of those people is that for some reason or other they are less able to adjust or cope, So they seek refuge.. I dont have your solution. But simply throwing money at the issue to keep them alive isnt it.. Some innovative view of the issue needs to be worked out..😷
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@whowasthatmaskedman everyone wants to live near the beach. have access to weed. nice weather.

like mexico?
And mental illness. And probably government ineptitude

These are intertwined.

The Reagan Admin defunded Federal support of mental health facilities, which created a lot of mentally ill homeless people.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@SomeMichGuy actually, the problem dates back to the LBJ era. progressives insisted that mental health facilities no longer act as residential warehouses for the behaviiorally disturbed. patients were released to fend for themselves on the street. They were asked to promise that they would return for their free medications regularly as a condition of release.

it hasn't gone well
@SusanInFlorida Well, then that push wasn't successful, because lots of residential facilities were alive and well when RWR pulled the plug on Federal funding and they closed.
jehova · 31-35, M
Diet accounts for autism more than "drug use" (corn syrup is poison and neurotoxic). Billions on a problem? it got worse. UsA spends trillions on war (it never gets better).
jehova · 31-35, M
@SusanInFlorida fructose being digestable by insulin is my observation. Glucose is digested by insulin. Fructose is a modified form of glicose? And it is resistant to digestion by insulin? Thats the conclusion i had made upon doing my own research and a few experiments.
jehova · 31-35, M
@SusanInFlorida also it isnt simple fructose. It is high fructose corn syrup. Produced from something (corn) which doesnt produce sugar into something (syrup) which is not readily soluble in water.
jehova · 31-35, M
@SusanInFlorida its about biomercury. A neurotoxic byproduct produced when corn is procesed (with enzymes) into a sweetener which has no actual sugar in it.
jehova · 31-35, M
Blame housing development for mansions instead of apartments.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@jehova politicians LOVE residential mansions. The property taxes are insanely lucrative for the government, and the crime rate in those locations is lower.
jehova · 31-35, M
@SusanInFlorida because there is only one property owner on such estates. it is moving toward fiefdoms lords and serfs. Regarding fairness of resource access mansions plantations tracts of land is a mechanism to stratify society into orders and classes. The jeff bezos person owns a 100 acre property with a milion dollar house. The same area and investment would provide adequate housing and food for 100s of thousands. Therefore politicians are tasked with representing their constituents equally. Those hundreds of thousands would pay more in taxes than the estate lord does. The millionaire property owner has the resources to fenagle paying less than their employee that makes 30k a year.
Hence America was founded on slavery.
Everyone knows!-
Every major city in the USA spends more to remove us each year than it would cost to house us permanently.
We understand your contempt for life.
jehova · 31-35, M
Compared to the trillions spent on foreign wars; is 2.4 billion really all that much of a waste?
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@jehova @jehova

thank you! There's one response like this to ANY of my posts. Except the posts where I rant about the US having 800+ military bases around the world, and suggest that's too many.

Sorry . . . you live under a rock. It's NOT okay to hire your cronies for hundreds of thousands of dollars, and have them set up illegal procurement contracts with their spouses to rip off the government. No matter how much you disapprove of war.
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GerOttman · 61-69, M
If history is any indicator, you spend more billions on it!
georgelong · 46-50, M
Spend = waste @GerOttman
Prison1203 · 61-69, M
Welcome to the democrat party that would spend billions on farting cows and how it affects the climate, and still not get any results or the mating habits of shrimp
Prison1203 · 61-69, M
@jehova try to look it up, California has the worst water conversion of any state in the union
jehova · 31-35, M
@Prison1203 yes i know that. i always thought it was bc of population and infrastructure. Id like to see huge desalinization projects.
jehova · 31-35, M
@Prison1203 i think hydroponic farming might be holding up the water cycle. More food production but it keeps water outside of the hydrosphere feedbackloop. Maybe thats part of the problem?
georgelong · 46-50, M
It’s state and local government ineptitude in handling drug and homelessness issues. Every state and city nationwide same issues and each and every one is doing better than this. Our taxpayer money is being stolen in this case.

 
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