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More bad news for Trump and Tesla. China demos EV battery that charges in 5 minutes.



Photo above - if you can't wait 44 minutes for your EV to charge, this is one possible solution. So is China's new 5-minute rechargeable battery . . .

“Wow . . . that was fast”. Instead of taking 20 or 30 minutes for Tesla charge – and a quickie – this can now all be over in as little as 5 minutes. Some will rejoice; others weep. Chinese carmaker BYD (“build your demise”) invented what has eluded Musk for a decade. While he was distracted by siring 14 kids and driving Twitter into the ground: the 5-minute rechargeable EV battery. See MSN link below.

Full disclosure – the writer did not personally observe this Chinese EV miracle. Nor has any credentialed western engineer. But it could very well be true. And if it is, it’s probably going to turn up first in smartphones and laptops, right?

Um . . . no. Let’s walk that one back. The 5-minute top off requires a massive 1,000 KwH charging station. 4 times as ginormous as Tesla’s “state of the art” 250 KwH. It also leapfrogs the coming 800-volt DC fast chargers. Which nobody is installing because they cost $50,000 out of the box, and another $20K to install. And because your max household current is 220 volts, not 800.

Okay haters, you can stop with the Cybertruck arson and swastikas now. Tesla is toast. There’s a new villain in town. China has finally moved beyond the era of “cooler styling than a Telsa Model 3 but still fails the US crash safety test.”

See Elon . . . this what you get if you turn your attention away from keeping Tesla up to date. Instead you were focused on “Plan 9 from Mars”, luring prospective baby mommas on Tinder, and making Twitter safe for holocaust denial. All we really wanted was faster charging, lower cost, and a design that doesn’t scream “I’m a clueless dork.”

Someone raised their hand in the back? Yes sir . . . you have a question? You’re asking what about the 10% tariff on Chinese EVs? (Or is it 15, or 25 today? What day of the week is it?). Thank you for that question. Let me pose one in return: who here would rather pay a $7,000 tariff on a $25,000 BYD EV (total cost $32,000) that recharges in 5 minutes, instead of (maybe) getting a $7,500 federal tax rebate on a Ford F150 “Lightning” EV which stickers for $90,000, and takes 44 minutes to recharge? (Official Ford website data).

Okay, everyone quit your pi$$ing and moaning. We all knew this day would come. Current battery technology sucks. That’s why most people AREN'T driving an EV. They’re expensive, slow to recharge, insanely heavy, and they catch fire if they even smell salt water. Or sometimes for no apparent reason at all.

Ford . . . smart move cancelling your (Biden federal grant funded) EV battery factory last year. GM, your “Ultrium” batteries are now DOA too. UAW assembly line workers, watch out: your $140K jobs are possibly in danger. Your next gig might be as a Postmates driver delivering champagne to investors who saw this coming. BYD shares are up 50% already in 2025, and that was BEFORE yesterday's 5-minute battery demonstration.

I just hope we’re not going to find out that 1 million Chinese Uighurs in outer Mongolia labor camps are the ones making these new batteries.

I’m just sayin’ . . .

BYD says it can charge an EV in 5 minutes. That's yet another challenge for Tesla.
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Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
I drove a BYD when visiting the Philippines last year. It was a nice ride and new they were just over $US20k.

Too bad they're practically banned in the US. They do have a factory in Mexico.

Quick charging cars? Technology is always advancing.
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Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
@SusanInFlorida Warren Buffett has a large investment in BYD.
Khenpal1 · M
@Crazywaterspring Berkshire Hathaway first bought a stake in BYD in 2008. Berkshire began selling shares in August 2022, cutting just over half its holding over the next two years. As of July 2024, Buffett owned less than 5% of BYD's Hong Kong H-shares, below the threshold where it has to disclose further sales.Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Warren Buffett, others lose over $26 billion wealth due to Evergrande crisis.
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MasterLee · 56-60, M
Portable bombs
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
@MasterLee [media=https://youtu.be/kgWttfFOzZk]

kinda wish they could sell them here, would be quite amusing to watch the anti-musk/tesla clowns buy them and randomly explode... 🤔
redredred · M
How is that bad news? If the technology has actually been developed, it’ll be used in all EVs shortly.
redredred · M
@SusanInFlorida look again, international commercial are all over the place and if you’re asserting that China's new technology is stolen then certainly the aggrieved party would be happy to license it to Musk and others.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@redredred i think 99% of what Musk brought to his chinese tesla plants was stolen, and used as the basis for new development
redredred · M
@SusanInFlorida those are your thoughts? So what?
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
any battery can be fast charged, that's nothing new...

of course, that comes with the added risk of it blowing up in your face, but at least it'll happen quickly, that's all that matters right? 🤔
MarthannBann888 · 70-79, F
Wonder how much that battery costs. Do you have to buy the charger.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@MarthannBann888 someone will have to buy and install them. I dont see how a 1,000 volt charger is going to work in your garage if your household current maxes out at 220 volts
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
Remainsbto be seen
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Wait till the latest salt based batteries from China hit the market within a year. All the expensive lithium will go the way of the steam engine..😷
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SusanInFlorida Indeed. As a SF buff I have followed this idea. In the end there would be no "grid" as each home would be self contained and self supporting. But we are a long way from there yet. and the Capitalist profit motive is actually holding the West back at this point..😷
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@whowasthatmaskedman my mom was baited by an email into getting a "solar survey" of her roof done. The results, and offer:

"we can't lower your rate. you have too many nearby trees. But we can guarantee you that your rates will only go up 2.5% annually for the next 5 years if you let us install these panels. Or you can cut the trees down. We have a tree removal service we partner with."
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SusanInFlorida I get it. Our solar power feeds back anything we dont use to the grid via a "smart meter" but the rebate we get for that is pitiful. But we had panels before Batteries were a "thing". If I had to do it today I would have a battery and more panels..😷
dale74 · M
China is also known for faking test trials I wouldn't be surprised if they actually had a secondary battery in the vehicle that they just switched over to
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@dale74 yeah that's why i put a lot of caveats in my top post.

they're already walking back last months claims that "DeepSeek" is better than ChatGPT and only requires 10% of the input/training.
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