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More bad news for Trump and Tesla. China demos EV battery that charges in 5 minutes.



Photo above - if you can't wait 44 minutes for your EV to charge, this is one possible solution. So is China's new 5-minute rechargeable battery . . .

“Wow . . . that was fast”. Instead of taking 20 or 30 minutes for Tesla charge – and a quickie – this can now all be over in as little as 5 minutes. Some will rejoice; others weep. Chinese carmaker BYD (“build your demise”) invented what has eluded Musk for a decade. While he was distracted by siring 14 kids and driving Twitter into the ground: the 5-minute rechargeable EV battery. See MSN link below.

Full disclosure – the writer did not personally observe this Chinese EV miracle. Nor has any credentialed western engineer. But it could very well be true. And if it is, it’s probably going to turn up first in smartphones and laptops, right?

Um . . . no. Let’s walk that one back. The 5-minute top off requires a massive 1,000 KwH charging station. 4 times as ginormous as Tesla’s “state of the art” 250 KwH. It also leapfrogs the coming 800-volt DC fast chargers. Which nobody is installing because they cost $50,000 out of the box, and another $20K to install. And because your max household current is 220 volts, not 800.

Okay haters, you can stop with the Cybertruck arson and swastikas now. Tesla is toast. There’s a new villain in town. China has finally moved beyond the era of “cooler styling than a Telsa Model 3 but still fails the US crash safety test.”

See Elon . . . this what you get if you turn your attention away from keeping Tesla up to date. Instead you were focused on “Plan 9 from Mars”, luring prospective baby mommas on Tinder, and making Twitter safe for holocaust denial. All we really wanted was faster charging, lower cost, and a design that doesn’t scream “I’m a clueless dork.”

Someone raised their hand in the back? Yes sir . . . you have a question? You’re asking what about the 10% tariff on Chinese EVs? (Or is it 15, or 25 today? What day of the week is it?). Thank you for that question. Let me pose one in return: who here would rather pay a $7,000 tariff on a $25,000 BYD EV (total cost $32,000) that recharges in 5 minutes, instead of (maybe) getting a $7,500 federal tax rebate on a Ford F150 “Lightning” EV which stickers for $90,000, and takes 44 minutes to recharge? (Official Ford website data).

Okay, everyone quit your pi$$ing and moaning. We all knew this day would come. Current battery technology sucks. That’s why most people AREN'T driving an EV. They’re expensive, slow to recharge, insanely heavy, and they catch fire if they even smell salt water. Or sometimes for no apparent reason at all.

Ford . . . smart move cancelling your (Biden federal grant funded) EV battery factory last year. GM, your “Ultrium” batteries are now DOA too. UAW assembly line workers, watch out: your $140K jobs are possibly in danger. Your next gig might be as a Postmates driver delivering champagne to investors who saw this coming. BYD shares are up 50% already in 2025, and that was BEFORE yesterday's 5-minute battery demonstration.

I just hope we’re not going to find out that 1 million Chinese Uighurs in outer Mongolia labor camps are the ones making these new batteries.

I’m just sayin’ . . .

BYD says it can charge an EV in 5 minutes. That's yet another challenge for Tesla.
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Wait till the latest salt based batteries from China hit the market within a year. All the expensive lithium will go the way of the steam engine..😷
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@whowasthatmaskedman I'm nor sure salt will be the last word in batterie, but its clear that Lithium's days are numbered. It's in short supply, the batteries heavy and unwieldy, they take too long to recharge, they catch fire, they're expensive.

i saw a fascinating article about "light" a few weeks ago. Wish I could find it. The premise was that modern technology has driven down the cost of reading/conversing at night. The technlogy followed a progression for "unustainably expenive and wasteful" to "current tech. Some highlights, as recall them

1 - (early times) chopping wood for your fireplace
2 - making candles
3 - whale oil lanterns
4 - kerosene lanterns
5 - gas lights (piped gas)
6 - incandescent bulbs
7 - fluorescent bulbs
8 - LED

At each step the energy required - and cost - decreased by an order of magnitude.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SusanInFlorida Indeed. As a SF buff I have followed this idea. In the end there would be no "grid" as each home would be self contained and self supporting. But we are a long way from there yet. and the Capitalist profit motive is actually holding the West back at this point..😷
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@whowasthatmaskedman my mom was baited by an email into getting a "solar survey" of her roof done. The results, and offer:

"we can't lower your rate. you have too many nearby trees. But we can guarantee you that your rates will only go up 2.5% annually for the next 5 years if you let us install these panels. Or you can cut the trees down. We have a tree removal service we partner with."
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SusanInFlorida I get it. Our solar power feeds back anything we dont use to the grid via a "smart meter" but the rebate we get for that is pitiful. But we had panels before Batteries were a "thing". If I had to do it today I would have a battery and more panels..😷