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China hits USA with 15% farm tariffs. I fail to see the threat.



Photo above - grand re-opening, under new management. A Chinese "wet market" selling dogs. Inquiring minds want to know: is China's new 15% tariff on legitimate US food imports going to lead to more domestic dog slaughter?

Last week, Trump hit China with an additional 10% tariff because they were dragging their feet on stopping the flow of Fentanyl to the USA (and other countries, it should be noted). This week China retaliated by imposing a 15% tariff on American farm products (see link below). Um . . . is this because Fentanyl is a vital export product from China, and they cannot afford to scale back their manufacturing and distribution?

Well, China IS in the middle of a huge recession. And America might be soon also, if this tariff stuff gains traction. But the two countries couldn’t be more different.

1 – China has hundreds of thousands of vacant apartments. Often half-finished in the middle of nowhere. America has a housing shortage. Even Chinese people - especially the well to do - are trying to get into the USA and Canada.

2 – China – despite several “great leap forward” attempts – still cannot feed itself. Meat of all kinds, and soybeans are particular problems. America is the free-market food supplier to every nation on earth which struggles with basic agriculture.

3 – In fact, the US government PAYS farmers to leave land unplowed. How long has THIS been going on? Since 1933. How much are we paying to keep farms unplanted? In 2022, the most recent year for published data, it was over $15 billion. Yeah, my mind is blown too. See second link below.

China certainly isn’t paying anyone not to plant crops or stop raising pork. In fact, things are so dicey in the Celestial Empire that they are still eating bats, rats and pangolins. They've revived their annual “dogmeat” celebration. Also on the menu: peacocks, kangaroos, camels, and cats. You can Google this if you don’t believe me. We have an uncensored internet. The good news? They stopped eating dolphins and whales . . .

So this MIGHT be a win-win situation for the USA (not so much for Chinese bats, cats, and dogs however). Their 15% imported food tariff would be paid by Chinese consumers. No harm, no foul to American producers. And If Chinese imports go down, America will then have a more abundant domestic supply (poultry, beef, pork, soy, etc.) and our own prices should go down. We might also want to consider cutting off that $15 billion "don't plant" slush fund for farmers. I hope this isn't keeping them indoors watching NASCAR during this spring's planting season.

¡Presidente Trump - escucha! I urge you stop these nonsensical Canadian tariffs. Those hosers are NOT our enemy. Chairman Xi Jinping is the enemy. If you think there's some Canadian Fentanyl factory hidden up there, use a drone to take it out. The way President Clinton did with the VX nerve gas factory in Sudan. Double down on the Chinese tariffs. If Xi imposes a 100% tariff on food imported from America, we have won. And he just might be stupid enough to try it. Chairman Xi doesn't have access to an uncensored internet, after all, and tends to imprison people who give unsolicited advice . . .

I’m just sayin’ . . .

China strikes back at Trump tariffs with 15% levies targeting U.S. farmers

Does the US still pay farmers not to grow? - Geographic FAQ Hub: Answers to Your Global Questions
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Subsumedpat · 36-40, M
Yes we have programs that sometimes pay farmers not to grow crops, though the specifics have evolved over time. These initiatives are typically tied to agricultural policy aimed at managing supply, stabilizing prices, and protecting soil health. The idea isn’t always “don’t grow anything” but rather “don’t grow crops for market” on specific plots. It is actually quite important it prevents overproduction that crashes prices.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@Subsumedpat @Subsumedpat that's some kinda wonderful evolution. it went from near zero to $15 billion a year.

but that's the government for you . . .
Subsumedpat · 36-40, M
@SusanInFlorida It happened before we were alive so maybe we don't understand the impact on people an the economy if farm prices collapse because of a glut. Happened after world war 1 and was one of the contributing factors in the great depression. Farms failed, banks who lent to the farms failed, then there was not enough food produced in later years because of the failures.
acpguy · C
I hope American farmers go belly up (this does not include ranchers that raise beef on grass) as they have done huge amounts of harm to our wild life, land resources, wetlands, fish, pollution to our lakes, rivers and oceans and have contributed to cancer, obesity with high fructose corn syrup. I am definitely not a greenie but I have seen a huge decline beneficial bugs, pollinators and wildlife since I began hunting and fishing in the early 1960's.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Sometimes you have to look a few moves ahead with China..Recent developments in the BRICS economic grouping mean that China now has access to a lot of South American suppliers and most importantly doesnt have to pay in $US for the imports from Argentina and Brazil. This makes those imports cheaper and more attractive as well as undrmining the $US as a reserve currency..So slapping a tariff on US food is a double blow to America.😷
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SusanInFlorida As you should.. I have absoluterly no doubt thet displacement of America as the global superpower is Chinas aim. They have simply found better ways to achieve the goal with less cost and damage to themselves, by causing difficulties within US infrastructure and society and by cauing the US military to overspend and use up recourses in protecting far off lands they are close to or have proxies close by. The chinese strategy is long term constact pressure to wear America down and it has worked. Having said that Trump is a gift to them. The straw that broke the America eagles back..😷
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@whowasthatmaskedman i have no objection at all to China improving the living standards and nutrition for it's citizens.

but I don't want to even think about what happens to democracies and human rights in Europe and North America if China becomes the worlds greatest superpower.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SusanInFlorida We will know soon enough..
AuRevoir · 36-40, M
It’s so weird how China has the science to make a small an extremely miniaturized sun appear for like 15 seconds or whatever.

Have nuclear arms. And other sciences.

But they also are completely backwards with common things.

Though I can’t say we’re doing that much better when they were trying to convince every moron in America to eat bugs…

But still I feel bad for those dogs. I don’t understand why so many Asian based countries have a thing for eating cats and dogs.

1 cows life vs the 50-60 dogs it would take to get the same amount of meat.
AuRevoir · 36-40, M
@Khenpal1Chin is full of grass idk what you think you’re talking about but it’s wrong.
Khenpal1 · M
@AuRevoir not true
acpguy · C
@AuRevoir They and we in the USA should get rid of all the feral cats as they kill over 60 million wild birds per year in just the USA. Dogs are not so much a problem unless they are released in the wild then the biggest concern is attacking people and getting rabies.
Khenpal1 · M
I just heard in podcast that parts crossing 53 times forth and back , trying to find the link.
dale74 · M
Well considering the fact that we're one of the largest suppliers of food to China at a reduced cost that really doesn't hurt the US
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@dale74 agreed
Lilymoon · F
Gross 😢
pdockal · 56-60, M
@Lilymoon

I know But do you know where your food actually comes from ?????
Lilymoon · F
@pdockal yeah right
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@Lilymoon the US government has (for years) a regulation controlling the number of insect parts which can be in a candy bar. Here's the link:

https://blog.entomologist.net/does-the-fda-permit-the-inclusion-of-insects-in-chocolate.html
Farmers are really just business owners - the land gets misused and the products are for the money, not the people. The environment is depleated.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@Roundandroundwego mostly i agree. Cargill and Monsanto are corporations.

The strawberry farmer just a few miles from my apartment is registered as a business, and has about 4-5 full time employees, and a few seasonal ones the rest of the year. He is the sole proprietor. Of course his strawberries are grown for money. Do you think he'd pay taxes on all that land, have a payroll system for his hired hands, and deal with pesticides and fertilizers for fun?
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pdockal · 56-60, M
Correct me but don't tariffs affect imports not exports ?????
Khenpal1 · M
@SusanInFlorida I had the link , but it will take too much time for me to trace it back.
Khenpal1 · M
@SusanInFlorida Parts cross the border up to eight times (Opens in a new window) before a car rolls off the line, underscoring how tightly our manufacturing sectors are woven. Automakers and suppliers are the US's largest manufacturing sector, historically responsible for 3 – 3.5 percent of the country's GDP (Opens in a new window).4 Mar 2025 Google search https://lfpress.com/news/local-news/trump-tariffs-car-part-crosses-canada-us-mexico-borders-7-times https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/track-one-car-parts-journey-through-the-u-s-canada-and-mexicobefore-tariffs-7c0d5dcb https://www.dallasfed.org/research/pubs/usmca/degortari https://www.argusmedia.com/en/news-and-insights/latest-market-news/2654006-us-tariffs-to-push-automotive-prices-higher Basically in the last article 20 mil jobs are at risk .https://www.freightwaves.com/news/tariffs-could-reshape-north-american-supply-chains-for-autos-lumber-agrifoods
Khenpal1 · M
@SusanInFlorida The automotive industry plays a major role in the North American economy. The automotive sector contributed more than $809 billion to the U.S. economy in 2023 and accounted for 11% of total manufacturing output, according to a report from the U.S. Trade Representative.

The U.S.-Mexico automotive supply chain includes automakers such as General Motors, Ford, Toyota, BMW, Nissan, Volkswagen, Stellantis, Freightliner, Kenworth and Navistar — companies that have factories on both sides of the border.

“The automotive industry is responsible for 9.7 million direct and indirect U.S. jobs. Additionally, industry estimates that every job with an auto manufacturer in the United States creates on average nearly 11.5 other jobs upstream (e.g., auto parts producers) and downstream (e.g., auto dealerships) in the U.S. economy,” the USTR report said. A 25% tariff imposed on parts and vehicles coming from Canada and Mexico to the U.S. would “break the entire system” of the North American automotive supply chain, said John Lash, group vice president of product strategy at e2open.

Austin, Texas-based e2open is a connected supply chain software platform.Auto factories in the U.S., Canada and Mexico are dependent on parts moving back and forth across the borders multiple times before a vehicle is ultimately assembled, Lash said. “It’s really simple and easy to say, ‘We’re going to put this tariff on things … it’s going to be good for the country, it’s going to generate revenue,’” Lash said. “But there are all of these hidden consequences, and there’s structural, long-term investments that you don’t know. You don’t shift supply chains overnight. How long does it take to build a factory? It’s three years, four years. It’s not like you just shift them and move these things around. You put them in place, and then it’s a long-term investment for it.”
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SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow you evidently reject 100% of the mainstream media, including:

BBC
PBS
the new york times
the washington post
the wall street journal
MSNBC
CNN
Fox
AFP
@SusanInFlorida All media that has been caught lying for 20 years.

Media that in the past had CIA within their organizations

And if you look at where they get the info for these articles it almost always goes back to New Tang Dynasty or Epoch News both "news" by the Falun Gong cult.

Do you take Scientology magazines as sources too?
@SusanInFlorida And I noticed you cannot counter anything I said.
Khenpal1 · M
China can buy food elsewhere , your post is just a runt .
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@Khenpal1 i looked at your profile and posts. apparently, all you do is link to someone else's videos as if they were your own.

good job! keep working up to your potential!
Khenpal1 · M
@SusanInFlorida You are rumbling on anything between eggs and M1 Abrams Tanks🥳

 
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