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China hits USA with 15% farm tariffs. I fail to see the threat.



Photo above - grand re-opening, under new management. A Chinese "wet market" selling dogs. Inquiring minds want to know: is China's new 15% tariff on legitimate US food imports going to lead to more domestic dog slaughter?

Last week, Trump hit China with an additional 10% tariff because they were dragging their feet on stopping the flow of Fentanyl to the USA (and other countries, it should be noted). This week China retaliated by imposing a 15% tariff on American farm products (see link below). Um . . . is this because Fentanyl is a vital export product from China, and they cannot afford to scale back their manufacturing and distribution?

Well, China IS in the middle of a huge recession. And America might be soon also, if this tariff stuff gains traction. But the two countries couldn’t be more different.

1 – China has hundreds of thousands of vacant apartments. Often half-finished in the middle of nowhere. America has a housing shortage. Even Chinese people - especially the well to do - are trying to get into the USA and Canada.

2 – China – despite several “great leap forward” attempts – still cannot feed itself. Meat of all kinds, and soybeans are particular problems. America is the free-market food supplier to every nation on earth which struggles with basic agriculture.

3 – In fact, the US government PAYS farmers to leave land unplowed. How long has THIS been going on? Since 1933. How much are we paying to keep farms unplanted? In 2022, the most recent year for published data, it was over $15 billion. Yeah, my mind is blown too. See second link below.

China certainly isn’t paying anyone not to plant crops or stop raising pork. In fact, things are so dicey in the Celestial Empire that they are still eating bats, rats and pangolins. They've revived their annual “dogmeat” celebration. Also on the menu: peacocks, kangaroos, camels, and cats. You can Google this if you don’t believe me. We have an uncensored internet. The good news? They stopped eating dolphins and whales . . .

So this MIGHT be a win-win situation for the USA (not so much for Chinese bats, cats, and dogs however). Their 15% imported food tariff would be paid by Chinese consumers. No harm, no foul to American producers. And If Chinese imports go down, America will then have a more abundant domestic supply (poultry, beef, pork, soy, etc.) and our own prices should go down. We might also want to consider cutting off that $15 billion "don't plant" slush fund for farmers. I hope this isn't keeping them indoors watching NASCAR during this spring's planting season.

¡Presidente Trump - escucha! I urge you stop these nonsensical Canadian tariffs. Those hosers are NOT our enemy. Chairman Xi Jinping is the enemy. If you think there's some Canadian Fentanyl factory hidden up there, use a drone to take it out. The way President Clinton did with the VX nerve gas factory in Sudan. Double down on the Chinese tariffs. If Xi imposes a 100% tariff on food imported from America, we have won. And he just might be stupid enough to try it. Chairman Xi doesn't have access to an uncensored internet, after all, and tends to imprison people who give unsolicited advice . . .

I’m just sayin’ . . .

China strikes back at Trump tariffs with 15% levies targeting U.S. farmers

Does the US still pay farmers not to grow? - Geographic FAQ Hub: Answers to Your Global Questions
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Sometimes you have to look a few moves ahead with China..Recent developments in the BRICS economic grouping mean that China now has access to a lot of South American suppliers and most importantly doesnt have to pay in $US for the imports from Argentina and Brazil. This makes those imports cheaper and more attractive as well as undrmining the $US as a reserve currency..So slapping a tariff on US food is a double blow to America.😷
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@whowasthatmaskedman crops, meat and fish are "fungible". that means in the free market a shortage or surplus on region will be reflected soon enough by price changes elsewhere in the supply chain.

i don't feel threatened by china's tariffs.

i DO feel threatened by china's hacking of our electric grid, fentanyl production, and constant threats to invade taiwan.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SusanInFlorida As you should.. I have absoluterly no doubt thet displacement of America as the global superpower is Chinas aim. They have simply found better ways to achieve the goal with less cost and damage to themselves, by causing difficulties within US infrastructure and society and by cauing the US military to overspend and use up recourses in protecting far off lands they are close to or have proxies close by. The chinese strategy is long term constact pressure to wear America down and it has worked. Having said that Trump is a gift to them. The straw that broke the America eagles back..😷
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@whowasthatmaskedman i have no objection at all to China improving the living standards and nutrition for it's citizens.

but I don't want to even think about what happens to democracies and human rights in Europe and North America if China becomes the worlds greatest superpower.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SusanInFlorida We will know soon enough..