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President Trump Vs President Zelenskyy

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Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!

No one on planet Earth would have expected two Presidents to quarrel like this. I mean, what happened to the diplomatic protocols that are mandatory for the men in such positions?🤷‍♂ Lots of reaction videos are circulating across the web, and no one is happy with the way this meet was conducted. I literally felt that it was two business partners who were arguing over a business deal or project that failed miserably.

Well, I am neither a Trump supporter nor a Biden supporter. I am not even an American. However, there's no denying some points highlighted by Trump are correct, but the way those points were put across could have been better. The world has never seen two Presidents debating like this. Well, there's always the first time.

The USA's C.I.A. is a great opportunist on this planet. The moment they notice something beneficial for the USA, they jump at it like a hawk. The so-called wise moves of US Democrats have done nothing but aggravate problems across the globe in the last few years. Well, US Republicans haven't done any good either. Who's suffering the most? The working class of the USA and the world because actions of the USA always impact global politics. Now, the world has an invincible power to deal with, i.e., China. How has China succeeded? The answer is simple. What the USA's C.I.A. and Soviets did to different countries of the world since the 50s in the name of the Cold War, China is doing better, and in a legit form. Anyway, that's a different debate altogether.

What US Democrats do, the repercussions of it are visible a little later. What US Republicans do, the repercussions of it are visible years later.

President Trump, you wish to stop the ongoing war between Russia and Ukraine. People respect that, but not at the cost of Ukraine's natural resources. Please follow a fair trade if you wish to get your hands on Ukraine's natural resources. I wish US Democrats never planted the seed of NATO in Zelensky's mind. Things would have been different if Zelensky had continued to honour the treaty with Russia. What Putin did later is condemnable, but Zelensky didn't leave him with any other option. I still do not support President Putin's actions, but an invasion of this scale could have been avoided had Zelensky calculated all the probabilities of the aftereffects of his decision-making. A stitch in time saves nine!

What's intriguing here is the fact that President Trump did not even once condemn the actions of President Putin. I think I understand the reason. He knows that doing so would lead the trail to the USA's C.I.A. I used to like President Biden, but his decisions later didn't do any good for the world. The man may have spoken of peace-making several times but never even once stopped the war aid to Israel. As a matter of fact, he kept splurging billions of taxpayers' money into the complex Russia-Ukraine war, which was a part of the administration's strategy. The power kept slipping through his clutches, and it came to a point where he became the spectator who could just sit and watch the show.

His failures led Trump to an easy victory. The Muslim voters of America voted for Trump because he highlighted a vital problem in his rallies that Democrats ignored completely during their campaign. What the Muslim population of America wanted to hear from Democrats, they heard from Republicans. The man has already started working on the Ukraine-Russia conflict. Let's see if he's able to stop the carnage and ethnic cleansing that has been carried out by BB for a long time. American administration helps anyone only if it sees there's something in it for them. President Trump may stop the conflict, but the price will be the canal BB has been eyeing for a while. This time BB won't lead the project, but a person worthy enough as per Trump's administration. We all know BB is a demon who now is unruly and defiant.

President Trump understands that wars, proxy wars, and unnecessary interference haven't brought any good to the USA. However, he doesn't resist the idea of the USA controlling the world because that power is slipping through the hands of the USA. This is indeed a never-ending cycle.

The main question is, does this quest for the management of global power help common men of the USA, China, and other countries? No! It doesn't. Presidents come and go, and law-abiding citizens keep paying taxes, but what do they get in return? More polarised society, more chaos, inflation, unemployment, and zero savings.

I completely support Trump's campaign for deporting the illegal immigrants, making the immigration more stringent, and scrutinising the visa applicants in a more efficient way.

Immigrants must understand when you migrate to a foreign country, you have to understand, respect, and embrace the culture, laws, and regulations of that country. Building a town that looks like your home country and expecting the government of that foreign country to let you practice your home country's laws and culture will never be entertained by any country. The country will deport you to where you came from, and it's completely fair. This is applicable for all the immigrants. The immigrants who believe in the principle when in Rome, do as Romans do, encounter less or no racism and troubles. I wish this was the case because people of colour do face racism from time to time in countries dominated by a Caucasian population. Is every Caucasian person racist? No! Good and bad exist in every community, race, and religion. Racists aren't welcomed anywhere. No good human being will ever be friends with the racist in his/her race or community. Well, this is also a different debate altogether.

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akindheart · 61-69, F
i have to admit i did not read all of your post. Zelensky has been robbing us of money for years. he is in no position to dictate terms to us and he tried. Trump wants peace. Zelensky misled him. not only that but he called Vance "suka" which is derogatory. Lets cut off aid to Ukraine and let those other countries show their solidarity by supporting them.

Zelensky told the President he wanted to take the deal to his legistature. This came from Marco Rubio. Instead Zelensky announced that he threw that deal out. Even Biden had his trouble with him.

Trump tried to explain he was in a bad position and he would not listen. Let him find out the hard way.
akindheart · 61-69, F
@helenS where do you get that he is making friends with Putin? it just happens Ukraine shot themselves in the foot. he was disrespectful because we didn't give him more money. He has played us for a long time. I guess you know that there is money missing that we gave them right? you also know that USAID sent Zelensky's family to the Paris fashion show...yeah...our enemy right now is CHINA...
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@akindheart Exactly
@akindheart I and many people might not have liked what went down but I did like the end result. He didn't come in here, boss us around, and walk away with billions of dollars. Like he figured he was going to do. It all being said, really, that is all those Slavic people understand is force, force, force.
helenS · 36-40, F
I believe the whole thing was pretty much staged. Trump had bragged, in a loud voice, that He would be able to stop the war in Ukraine, within a day or so.
After communicating with Russia, He had to learn that this will not be the case. Russia will not stop attacking Ukraine, why should they? As long as they still have young men to be thrown into the meat grinder, why would they stop?
As a result, He and his co-mobsters had to blame someone, and that Zelenskyy guy was an easy target. They accused him of not wanting to stop the war. They accused him of causing hundreds of thousands to die.
And, of course, they accused him of not being grateful enough.
ArtieKat · M
@helenS So true!
SoLeRiMix · 36-40, M
@helenS
I believe the whole thing was pretty much staged

It is possible. When it comes to Trump, anything is possible. I respect your point of view.

Trump has a fabulous team of researchers who keep a close watch on what most Americans wish to hear, and he delivers accordingly.

The key points he highlights from time to time are the issues that US Democrats have been ignoring for quite a long time. The USA has reached its boiling point. I wouldn't be surprised if a civil war breaks out tomorrow because folks in power in the USA today have ample resources to drive the country in that direction. People will fight falling for the propaganda; innocents will suffer and die for no reason. The ones in power would sit, watch the show, and wait for the right moment to enforce more control. Then, the world will officially welcome the New World Order. It may come across as a great conspiracy theory, but by thinking deeper and connecting the dots of global events that have happened in the past and are happening in the present, you'll see the theory turning out to be true.

Enough political talks. Yo! DJ, spin that sh*t!😇🤝
Zelensky had no appreciation nor understanding of who he was dealing with. And I think he got a rude awakening and a dose of much needed “ medicine “ when Vance addressed him.
Time to end that war.
@newjaninev2 Did you not get this?
@newjaninev2 Zelensky’s actions: conferring with other politicians before meeting with Trump and refusing to sign the agreement I believe on minerals, which was the reason he went to see Trump.
@soar2newhighs I and many people might not have liked what went down but I did like the end result. He didn't come in here, boss us around, and walk away with billions of dollars. Like he figured he was going to do. It all being said, really, that is all those Slavic people understand is force, force, force.
ArtieKat · M
Things would have been different if Zelensky had continued to honour the treaty with Russia. What Putin did later is condemnable, but Zelensky didn't leave him with any other option.

Have you any idea what you're talking about? Go and read some history - Eastern Europe from 1989 to the present day would be a good place to start.

@SoLeRiMix
SoLeRiMix · 36-40, M
@ArtieKat My friend, history today is full of so many contexts:

- There's actual history (that is different as per both sides).

- Then there's manipulated history (full of propaganda and misleading facts).

- Finally, we have an unspoken history (that covers the events ignored or buried).

The point is the deeper you dig, the more research is needed. I wish I and people had the time to look and study all the aspects in detail. Unfortunately, most go with what's known to many or easily available. Therefore, it's a never-ending debate. The Cold War may have ended, but its aftereffects continue to haunt the world to date. Apparently, we are in the era of the new Cold War. This time the enemy (i.e., China) is invincible and has its forces deployed in almost every country. China's moves are unpredictable.

Trump knows right now the USA and its so-called allies are not in a position to fight WWIII. Therefore, telling Zelenskyy not to join NATO is wise as well as a cunning move. We should not forget Russia is China's ally.
ArtieKat · M
@SoLeRiMix
My friend, history today is full of so many contexts

End of conversation.
@SoLeRiMix

Helping Russia to regain sovereign countries which separated after the fall of the Wall means we are strengthening Russia and giving back our win of the Cold War.

Russia is not our friend.

Nor is China.
RockerDad · M
@helenS twisted, but I like your thinking
RedBaron · M
Much too long to read. Nice copy-paste work though.
SoLeRiMix · 36-40, M
@RedBaron Got it! Classic case: Start a fire and then run away! No worries! It's over now. Happy Weekend!😇
RedBaron · M
@SoLeRiMix And you’re still blathering. Talk about a classic case. Don’t let anything go and don’t move on.
SoLeRiMix · 36-40, M
@RedBaron Feeling's mutual! I clearly said it's over now. Maybe this will sound better, and you won't reply any further. Keep talkin' to the hand, troll artist!🖐
SW-User
What you're seeing is real negotiations being done in real time not time wasting formalities. By denying Ukraine into nato Donald Trump just put off ww3 for a little bit longer. You don't have a clue what happened you juat copy and paste an article you glanced through
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@SW-User Norway just told America to go F--- itself. Other countries might do the same thing.

Norway fuel giant 'refuses to fill US submarines' after Trump-Zelensky clash
Norwegian petroleum giant Haltbakk Bunkers has declared it will no longer help the US Navy.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2021304/norway-fuel-giant-refuses-fill
RockerDad · M
I have said many times that people either love Donald Trump, or want to see him eaten by Grizzly Bears. I’m on team Grizzly Bear, 100%.
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RockerDad · M
@SomeMichGuy I would want it all to be on live TV, though.
@RockerDad Oh, yes, of course.
wrule · F
You should have seen Trump and Modi, too hilarious.
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nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
Trump did well
SoLeRiMix · 36-40, M
@nudistsueaz You're welcome.😇

I beg to differ, but I am not someone who gets rude or abusive if the other person has different views than mine. I believe we can peacefully coexist as long as we let each other speak freely and respect each other. Please correct me if I am wrong.😇
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@SoLeRiMix I'm the same way. I was just quoting the published numbers from the news networks.
SoLeRiMix · 36-40, M
@nudistsueaz We're cool. Nice meeting you!😇🤝
It’s being reported Zelensky met with Democrats before seeing Trump and was advised to not sign the mineral deal.
@soar2newhighs Right On 😁
@soar2newhighs The you can drink vodka and celebrate with your Russian masters...
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Convivial · 26-30, F
There was only one diplomat in that meeting and he wasn't American...
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You are wrong on the facts.
SoLeRiMix · 36-40, M
@SomeMichGuy Whatever makes you happy, my friend.😇 Our world is a stage; the lives of people are a play manipulated by characters who have the ability and power to turn right into wrong and vice versa.
@SoLeRiMix Your understanding of recent history is an alt-Right rewrite.

It's not facts.

Zelenskyy did NOT force Russia and Biden isn't responsible.

DJT kissing Putin's butt set the stage for Russia doing this, and Putin's lapdog is trying to undo our winning the Cold War.

DJT has no understanding of the bases of American power, which is why he is throwing it away.

Remember, he has LOST money at EVERY business he has run, except Trump Tower...
SoLeRiMix · 36-40, M
@SomeMichGuy I beg to differ, but I respect your opinion. I feel neither Democrats nor Republicans are doing a good job.😇
GerOttman · 70-79, M
Does anyone else ever stop to question how much of this is scripted? He's a game show host... None of this is an accident!
SW-User
@GerOttman it's seemed that way for a long time
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Patriot96 · 56-60, C
Zelensky was expecting sleepy joe
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Trump's clearly smarter than Biden.
RockerDad · M
@Roundandroundwego if the “stable genius “ is smart, I’m the Princess Of Canada
@RockerDad the Dems certainly would have to lie about things if we compare Trump's fall out with Zelensky to Biden s last attempts at talking in public.
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RockerDad · M
@eli1601 it shows how poorly we now treat our supposed allies. It makes us look bad globally, and makes other countries less willing to help us or work with us. We come across as bullies who care only about our own interests, and only do the “right thing” if we think it will somehow benefit us in the short term. We have become the opposite of everything we claim to stand for.
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Patriot96 · 56-60, C
Protocols my ass. Its our money being wasted.
Plain language works
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@jshm2 Listen, of course all of that money and equipment isn't going to go over there At once. as far as it being old and used, why don't you send over some brand new equipment. It is far from Old and rusted.
SoLeRiMix · 36-40, M
@Patriot96 I beg to differ. Diplomatic protocols must be followed by the leaders of the country. Such events cannot be like the bosses of cartels meeting to end the territorial wars.😇
SoLeRiMix · 36-40, M
@DonaldTrumpet We are going to build a massive wall, and people will be thankful for that forever.😇
DonaldTrumpet · 70-79, M
@SoLeRiMix ITz a GreaTZ IdEa
The whole argument started because Trump lied and Zelenskyy corrected him. Like a typical crybaby, Trump threw a tantrum when called out.
Moneyonmymind · 31-35, M
it wasnt really a clash, trump barely let zelensky get a word in.
Moneyonmymind · 31-35, M
@MasterLee he felt much more than that
SoLeRiMix · 36-40, M
@Moneyonmymind I respect point of view.😇🤝
Moneyonmymind · 31-35, M
@SoLeRiMix I mean that’s what happened 🤷🏾‍♂😂
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newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@NativePortlander1970 So, did he?

I notice the clip uses the words 'alleged' and 'speculated'

Show me where he is heard to say these things.
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