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I was interested to find out what my Ukrainian friends feel.

I didn't want to ask them because that would taint my example. Instead I looked on their facebook pages. Fortunately my computer was able to translate Ukrainian to English. Without exception the ex pat Ukrainians that I have come to know are rejoicing that Trump thumped Zelensky.
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SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
In what respect did Trump "thump" Zelensky? A meeting was convened to conclude a mutually acceptable deal. The American side had no appetite for constructive negotiation and resorted to childish insults and lies. The other side emerged with dignity and the sympathy of the international community.
BigGuy2 · 31-35, M
@SunshineGirl dignity and sympathy ... oh really

Crossed arms like a little baby, same with rolling eyes ... so how did he show sympathy exactly 🤷🏼‍♂🤷🏼‍♂🤷🏼‍♂

Childish insults and lies:

"You're calling up men - [so conscription] - as you're running out of men to kill" ... [in a war you're losing]

Offering a way out of the debacle before he ACTUALLY loses the war, not exactly childish insults are they 🤷🏼‍♂🤷🏼‍♂🤷🏼‍♂

"The American side had no appetite for constructive negotiation"

So the American stance is:

End the war before WW3 happens

Zelenskyy's stance is:

"I want more $ BILLIONS to CONTINUE the war"

Trying to end a War before a War starts that will wipeout the HUMAN RACE, if unbelievably constructive

Ukraine is a sh*thole of a country, the most CORRUPT in the World, do you really think that all the people who want the war to continue are thinking of Ukraine ... Ukraine, a country that most people won't even know where it is on the World map, do you think it will win against a Military Superpower

🤔 WAKE UP
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@BigGuy2 I don't like to use business metaphors, but Trump does . . So if one of my colleagues had conducted a business negotiation as poorly as this, with zero preparation and minimal grasp of facts, using bluster and theatre to disguise their ineptitude, they would not have a job this morning.

Perhaps Zelensky would like some of the $240bn that is missing between what Trump says the USA has provided, and what Ukraine has actually received 🤔

At one stage Trump scolded Zelensky for presuming to tell him how America may fare in a future world unbound by rules. Why is it considered fine for Trump to project and speculate (as in confidently predicting "World War III") but no one else?
BigGuy2 · 31-35, M
@SunshineGirl

Perhaps Zelensky would like some of the $240bn that is missing between what Trump says the USA has provided, and what Ukraine has actually received 🤔

Ukraine is the most corrupt nation on the planet, only a brainwashed fool with blame a person - so Trump - in trying to stop $Billions in AID against a person who wants to continue a war ...

Zelenskyy himself has stated that he ONLY received $75 Billion of the $170 Billion CASH sent in AID, if YOU have an issue with the discepancy, speak with Sleepy, as it happened under his watch 😎😎😎

... as for the "...how America may fare ..."

America, along with it's Allies, won 2 World Wars ... at present, it's Military might is more than half the Worlds Military might combined, they don't need to worry how they'll 'fare' 😎😎😎
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@BigGuy2 At a stretch, $170bn may have been sent in total to Ukraine (received $110bn directly) to strengthen defences in neighbouring countries. That is well short of the $360bn that Trump claims has been sent. This is fraudulent misrepresentation that Trump had hoped to use as the basis for a one-sided carve up of Ukraine's resources. Textbook corruption.

Can you point to a specific corrupt act of Zelensky?
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@SunshineGirl According to Biden there was $350 Billion. Care care to explain the discrepancy?
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@SunshineGirl Your complete ignorance of the situation in Ukraine is jaw dropping. Had Biden (Blinken was running the show) been in office for 6 more months there would have been nukes flying. The world was that close to nuclear war. A war no one would have won.
BigGuy2 · 31-35, M
@SunshineGirl ... i pust the word 'cash' in capitals for a reason 🙄🙄🙄