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Why didn't the helicopter turn away from plane?

What is your best guess?

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth announced the Pentagon has begun a probe into the cause of a deadly midair collision between a passenger jet and a military helicopter, looking to understand who was to blame and how the tragedy occurred.
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Reason10 · 70-79, M
It's all because of an air traffic controller SHORTAGE, caused by Obama and Biden pushing DEI.
@Reason10 Basing that on your psychic powers?
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SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@Reason10 The CNN host asked a one sentence question about the wisdom of speculating in advance of a formal investigation. Trump replied with seven sentences, six of which did not address the question. He then went on to say "I think that's not a very smart question, I'm surprised, coming from you".

If that counts as a "tense exchange" in American journalism, God help you all! Clearly got Fox "News" excited though.
@Reason10 Umm no. Just no. Trump mouthing off is not facts.

I am sorry you have trouble with your command of the English language.

You cannot explain it because you know it is BS but will go along with anything your cult leader says.

Fox Noise can be discounted as a source by definition because they are known liars and have been for 20 years now.


And that is a lie. Because the thing he was whining about was in place 10 years ago and he did nothing during his first term.

Second of all we know for the actual evidence coming out from an actual investigation none of this blaming minorities had anything to do with it.


Again. Your cult leader mouthing off is not facts. The FAA is a massive organization with many different roles. He cannot even prove that anyone with an intellectual disability was put in a job as air traffic control.

But we know how MAGA works. Blame minorities regardless of facts or evidence.

Fun fact. Aviation investigations are just that. Investigations and they do it based on facts and evidence. Not Trump's latest drunk old man ramble.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow
But we know how MAGA works. Blame minorities regardless of facts or evidence.

Woke people may be a minority in American society, so are cancer cells in an otherwise healthy human body. DEI is a deadly disease.
@sree251 We get that you are a bigot. That is the only fact here.
Northwest · M
@Reason10 Amazing how your mind works. There is nothing factual in that Fox clip. It's Trump rambling on.

Here are some facts:

In the aftermath of the deadly collision between a jetliner and a Black Hawk helicopter at Reagan National Airport, Trump held an extraordinary news conference during which he speculated on the cause of the accident. At length, he attacked former presidents Barack Obama and Joe Biden for imposing what he called “a big push to put diversity” that he said weakened the Federal Aviation Administration.

Reading from a 2024 Fox News report — which he incorrectly identified as being two weeks old — Trump listed conditions that he suggested disqualify people from being air traffic controllers: “hearing, vision, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability, and dwarfism.”

“Can you imagine?” he asked. “Brilliant people have to be in those positions, and their lives are actually shortened, very substantially shortened because of the stress.” He suggested that it was wrong for anyone with those conditions to qualify “for the position of a controller of airplanes pouring into our country, pouring into a little spot, a little dot on the map, a little runway.”

But here’s the rub: During Trump’s first term, the FAA began a program to hire air traffic controllers with the conditions that Trump decried.

The facts

In the news conference, Trump said Obama weakened standards and “I changed the Obama standards from very mediocre at best, to extraordinary. … Then they changed it back — that was Biden.”

Trump’s claim was repeated in an executive order Trump signed Thursday that ordered a review of aviation safety: “During my first term, my Administration raised standards to achieve the highest standards of safety and excellence.”

That’s false. In his first term, Trump left the standards unchanged.

For air traffic controllers, the Obama administration in 2013 instituted a new hiring system that introduced a biographical questionnaire to attract minorities, underrepresented in the controller corps. The program was criticized, such as in a Fox News report in 2015, as making it harder for more skilled applicants to get hired as controllers.

But Trump, in his first term, left the policy in place, leading to a class-action lawsuit filed in 2019 by Mountain States Legal Foundation. The case was due to go to trial this year.

Moreover, the FAA under Trump in 2019 launched a program to hire controllers using the very criteria he decried at his news conference.

“FAA Provides Aviation Careers to People with Disabilities,” the agency announced on April 11, 2019. The pilot program, the announcement said, would “identify specific opportunities for people with targeted disabilities, empower them and facilitate their entry into a more diverse and inclusive workforce.”

The link under “targeted disabilities” is now dead, but the Wayback Machine retains links from June 2017 and January 2021 that show the page was unchanged during Trump’s tenure. The list included:

Hearing (total deafness in both ears)
Vision (Blind)
Missing Extremities
Partial Paralysis
Complete Paralysis, Epilepsy
Severe intellectual disability
Psychiatric disability
Dwarfism

The June 2019 webpage for the Aviation Development Program (ADP) — also now removed but still visible on the Wayback Machine — said the program “provides an opportunity for Persons with Targeted Disabilities (PWTD) to gain aviation knowledge and experience as an air traffic control student trainee.” Participants would get up to one year of experience in an Air Route Traffic Control Center (ARTCC), with a possibility of getting a temporary appointment at the FAA Academy.

In August 2021, the FAA announced that one of the first three ADP candidates graduated from the FAA Academy and became an official air traffic control trainee. “Twelve candidates are in the pipeline for the ADP, pending completion of the clearance process,” the agency said. “Candidates must first pass the Air Traffic Skills Assessment (ATSA), followed by the security and medical clearance process.”

The announcement said the program was conceived when an air traffic manager met a quadriplegic student who had assumed he would never qualify to be a controller because of his condition. The FAA stressed that participants must meet the same qualifications as any other air traffic controller student.

A White House spokesman declined to comment.

The Pinocchio Test

Trump claimed that he had changed Obama’s criteria for hiring air traffic controllers with greater diversity — when in fact he left it unchanged. Moreover, he decried the fact that FAA hired controllers with a range of disabilities that he listed at the news conference. But that program was launched during his first term.

Four Pinocchios