Is MAGA modern American fasicsm
t MAGA is violent sectarian and doesent accept any one who disagree with them and sae tthose who disagree as communists this is true american fascism,
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calicuz · 56-60, M
It's definitely the beginnings of, and the foundation of such an extreme political ideology. It has several of the defining elements of Fascism.
1: Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2: Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of “need.” The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, and long incarcerations of prisoners.
3: Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists…
4: Supremacy of the Military
Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5: Rampant Sexism
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation.
6: Controlled Mass Media
Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation or by sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Government censorship and secrecy, especially in war time, are very common.
7: Obsession with National Security
Fear of hostile foreign powers is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8: Religion and Government are Intertwined
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government’s policies or actions.
9: Protection of Corporate Power
The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10: Suppression of Labor Power
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .
11: Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.
12: Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13: Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14: Fraudulent Elections
Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
1: Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2: Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of “need.” The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, and long incarcerations of prisoners.
3: Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists…
4: Supremacy of the Military
Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5: Rampant Sexism
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation.
6: Controlled Mass Media
Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation or by sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Government censorship and secrecy, especially in war time, are very common.
7: Obsession with National Security
Fear of hostile foreign powers is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8: Religion and Government are Intertwined
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government’s policies or actions.
9: Protection of Corporate Power
The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10: Suppression of Labor Power
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .
11: Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.
12: Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13: Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14: Fraudulent Elections
Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
calicuz · 56-60, M
@Roundandroundwego
Yes, they are called "Corpratists," focusing more on their donors interests than "the people's" interests.
No, they can not be labeled "fascists," because fascism is strictly a "far right wing" political ideology, so it can not apply to any left wing political ideologies.
Wars are a part of the "military industrial complex" that President Eisenhower warned us about, and both parties are guilty of that.
There's nothing wrong with social austerity when done correctly, but the problem with trying to achieve any of it is difficult when "Corporate Greed" dominates Washington.
The problem with our prison system is that it is in the hands of the private sector where it never should have been.
Yes, they are called "Corpratists," focusing more on their donors interests than "the people's" interests.
No, they can not be labeled "fascists," because fascism is strictly a "far right wing" political ideology, so it can not apply to any left wing political ideologies.
Wars are a part of the "military industrial complex" that President Eisenhower warned us about, and both parties are guilty of that.
There's nothing wrong with social austerity when done correctly, but the problem with trying to achieve any of it is difficult when "Corporate Greed" dominates Washington.
The problem with our prison system is that it is in the hands of the private sector where it never should have been.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
calicuz · 56-60, M
@Roundandroundwego
Please don't lump me together with those Corpratists. I believe strictly in the Constitution and the life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness that is guaranteed to every American, born or naturalized, as clearly stated in the Constitution.
Please don't lump me together with those Corpratists. I believe strictly in the Constitution and the life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness that is guaranteed to every American, born or naturalized, as clearly stated in the Constitution.
calicuz · 56-60, M
@Roundandroundwego
Please stop calling them fascists, it doesn't help your argument, or allow others to take your points seriously.
Please stop calling them fascists, it doesn't help your argument, or allow others to take your points seriously.
calicuz · 56-60, M
@Roundandroundwego
In regards to Mussolini, you fail to see that his brand of fascism also failed, so I'd stop using a failures definition of terms.
In regards to Mussolini, you fail to see that his brand of fascism also failed, so I'd stop using a failures definition of terms.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@calicuz I fail always to make history matter to you living people, the carriers of the fascism. That Italian and Europe stuff was more intimately connected to me than anyone would want to grasp, in the old country and the new. If anyone knows fascism, it's me. And turning away from it won't happen until we reds force you and everyone else to be honest. Brutality would probably be necessary. You resist perfectly, left to right as one!
There was a red army even though we didn't want to use violence. Keep the fascists alive and supplied with NATO arms and we will still try to stop that without killing you all. So we're maybe stupid?
There was a red army even though we didn't want to use violence. Keep the fascists alive and supplied with NATO arms and we will still try to stop that without killing you all. So we're maybe stupid?
calicuz · 56-60, M
@Roundandroundwego
Woah, I'd slow down on the unaliving talk, but I agree with you about the senseless and needless wars that are fought today for profit. Unfortunately you fail to see that we agree on stopping fascism.
Woah, I'd slow down on the unaliving talk, but I agree with you about the senseless and needless wars that are fought today for profit. Unfortunately you fail to see that we agree on stopping fascism.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@calicuz and yet they're doing nothing but throughout the West, responding again to the powerful hegemonic controller. USA tells them exactly the same things about war and they're saying exactly the same things about immigration - while international socialism is still no secret, just like 1914. Rosa Luxembourg was right - the left became a zombie spectre of itself that day they agreed to fund WWI in the German parliament - and today the German Greens seem like walking meat, a grotesque carne vale display of betrayal.