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And just when you thought it couldn't get any worse ...

To the plum diplomatic posting of Paris goes Charles Kushner, father of Donald Trump’s son-in-law, and a man the president-elect once pardoned for a felony conviction that the former Republican New Jersey governor Chris Christie, an ex-federal prosecutor, called “one of the most loathsome, disgusting crimes” he ever prosecuted.
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Again I remind you that nothing can actually happen until after January 20. I suspect there will be a few Visa issues with some of these appontments..😷
Convivial · 26-30, F
@whowasthatmaskedman not quite true... It was st Trump's urging the latest appropriation bill got knocked back
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Convivial OK. But that is still the cowardice of those currently in power responding to his bluster, rather than actual acts of Trump...The difference between authority and influence..😷
Northwest · M
@whowasthatmaskedman Kushner's father was pardoned. This means that as far as international law is concerned, his crimes never happened.

Even though it's not Jan 20, Mike Johnson is the current Speaker of the House, and he will be re-elected on Jan 3rd. He is already executing Trump's agenda. No cowardice is involved.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Northwest I am sure your statements are correct under US law. Lets see how it plays out in France.😷
Northwest · M
@whowasthatmaskedman France is not going to say anything about it. Neither will Greece about Grand Canyon Mouth.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Northwest I agree we probably wont hear anything public. I just dont think it will happen. The French understand diplomacy..😷
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@Northwest As I understand, there is ambiguity about the legality of federal pardons in American law, let alone international.

Diplomacy is about trust and confidence. You can't restore that by presidential fiat. If he does not have the confidence and respect of his hosts he will be as much use as a chocolate teapot.
Northwest · M
@SunshineGirl
As I understand, there is ambiguity about the legality of federal pardons in American law, let alone international.

Diplomacy is about trust and confidence. You can't restore that by presidential fiat. If he does not have the confidence and respect of his hosts he will be as much use as a chocolate teapot.

Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution vests the president with a broad but limited power “to grant Reprieves and Pardons.” The pardon power is intended as a tool for justice and mercy (an “act of grace”) and to further “the public welfare.” While it must always be exercised it in the public interest.”

No Presidential pardon has ever been revoked, once it was made official.

What the President cannot pardon is STATE and Civil convictions. The Constitution is explicit about this.

Whether a country admits a US citizen, is strictly up to that country. For instance, if I have a criminal conviction and try to drive to Canada, I will be turned back at the border. Quite a few people found that out the hard way, when they trying to go to Taylor Swift's last Vancouver concert, and were turned around, because they had a DUI.

As to whether France will roll out the red carpet for the now pardoned, criminal, it's not really about diplomacy but about Jean de La Fontaine's Le Renard et l'Agneau.

We, Americans, decided that Trump is going to be our President. He was extremely clear about his agenda. Macron invited him to be at his side, during the re-opening of Notre Dame, a Cathedral that would be lost to history, had they listened to Trump's advice on how to put the fire down.

Trump announced his choice for Ambassador to France, on Nov 30. Macron had Trump at his side on Dec 7th.

I think it's pointless to speculate whether the French will protest the US choice of Ambassador.