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Yes, then I guess I am MAGA

What I want for my Country and Fellow Americans:

I want the best Healthcare in the world
I want the highest standard of living in the world
I want the longest life span in the world
I want the #1 economy in the world
I want the best education system in the world
I want the most educated population in the world
I want the cleanest air in the world
I want the least polluted Country in the world
I want the most pristine national and state parks in the world

and yes

I want the greatest, most powerful military in the world
I want the lowest crime rate in the world
I want the most harmonist citizenry in the world
I want the most fair and orderly immigration system in the world

So, if you think me a "deplorable" person for wanting these things for my Country and ALL my fellow citizens, then I guess we know who the real deplorables are.

Keep voting for the aristocratic party and see where we all end up. Take your failed Marxism to another part of the world.
Northwest · M Best Comment
Looking for clarification here. Who's your, in the following statement: Take your failed Marxism to another part of the world.

And is this in the USA? Because none of the major candidates were running as Marxists.

And one more thing: the US is already there in several areas, so what's the plan, for instance, to give us the best healthcare system in the world? Least polluted? Most harmonist?

Zeuro · 26-30, F
Bruh, it’s not that you want those things, those are all good things to want. It’s the fact that you think you can get those things from a Trump presidency. That’s the issue.
Vin53 · M
@SumKindaMunster
MyGirlPhotoswell · 61-69, M
@Ynotisay Please don't embarrass yourself by wrongly assuming I don't understand the basic tenets of Marxism. I understand it as Marx intended it and I understand it as today's Neo-Marxist would have it as an economic system. I also understand how the Bolsheviks deployed it in their quest for the "workers of the world,
to UNITE" ..... Tell me, what is your labor worth? Should you make as much as a coal miner? as much as a welder? as much as a doctor? as much as a public-school teacher? Just asking.
@MyGirlPhotoswell You didn't answer the question because you don't know what Marxism is.
Teirdalin · 31-35
Voting for the destruction of the department of education and eradication of the affordable healthcare act, and putting Elon Musk in a government position when he's trying to get about 100b of tax payer money paid into his pockets lately, as well as voting for higher tariffs on all imports (which in turn causes companies to see an opportunity to artificially inflate prices even more even if they're not relying on imports) is a funny way to go about some of those issues.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Teirdalin Not one of those things have happened. Not one.
JimBeam · M
@Heartlander

There's no reason to have a department of education.
MyGirlPhotoswell · 61-69, M
@Teirdalin we not only did fine before the creation of the Federal Department of Education, we did better before its creation. Quit drinking the cool aid
@MyGirlPhotoswell says

I want the best Healthcare in the world
Glad to hear it! Let's use life expectancy as a measure of health care effectiveness and see who is doing well and how much it costs. Oh, and we'll use infant mortality rates as a check.

Hmm. Kinda looks like there might be room for improvement here in the US of A, wouldn't you say?

Note the graph goes 1970-2018.
Source: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/life-expectancy-vs-health-expenditure

Infant mortality in 2020
Source: https://ourworldindata.org/us-life-expectancy-low

Kinda looks like we might be able to learn something from all those other developed nations who deliver longer life expectancy at FAR lower cost, wouldn't you say?
Ynotisay · M
@ElwoodBlues We pay the most and get the least. Because FREEDOM! And because AMERICA!
Along with the environment and wages, it's a perfect example of how SO many have been systematically trained to fight in direct opposition to their own best interests. It's utterly nonsensical. And totally American.
Corporalcolleague · 61-69, M
you had me in full agreement until your last two sentences....I don't think that wanting all of those things makes someone MAGA....I think a devotion to the whims, nastiness, racism, science denying, and misogyny of the incoming president-elect are what tip the scales in the MAGA direction. Just my opinion.
Corporalcolleague · 61-69, M
@Heartlander all valid...we should never blindly trust our government...we should always question, debate and disprove if we can....that's the nature of our democratic republic....to question but not necessarily just "fall in line". Debate and disagreement over Biden's policies was/is healthy and the same will be true for Trump.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@Corporalcolleague Trumps greatest achievement was to put an end to the Democrat’s stranglehold on the American people.

I didn’t vote for the Republicans to replace the Democrats. I voted to save the Republic and restore our Democrat processes,

I believe in a lot of liberal causes, like Universal health. Obamacare was forced health insurance and had little to do with healthcare.
swirlie · 31-35, F
@Heartlander
But when you voted Republican in namesake, you were actually voting for the extreme right-wing, Trump Labor Party, who of course hijacked the Republican Party of America.

This means the Republican Party you voted for no longer exists in principle. You therefore voted for the Trump Labor Party to replace the Democrats when you thought you were voting for the Republicans to do that same job, just for the record.

The exact same thing happened in the 1930's between Hitler's extreme right-wing Nazi Labor Party and Mussolini's extreme right-wing fascist National Socialist Party.

Hitler's Nazi Party employed Racism with it's fascism, whereas Mussolini's National Socialist Party of Italy did not embrace Racism as a fundamental mandate for their fascist existence.

Mussolini's National Socialist Party, like the American Republican Party, was a well-established party of right-wing, nationalistic conservatives, whereas Hitler's not-at-all-established party of right-wing Racist nationalists like the Trump Labor Party, was largely an unknown political entity in Germany at the time.

Hitler promised to serve the needs of farmers and uneducated factory workers in Germany, whereas Trump promised to serve the needs of farmers and uneducated American white males in the USA.

Hitler then piggybacked his cause on Mussolini's back and together they formed an alliance where Mussolini's Party gave Hitler his legitimacy among common voters. In other words, Hitler hijacked Mussolini's National Socialist Party.

Trump did exactly the same thing to the Republican Party in America, as Hitler did to Mussolini's Socialist Party in Italy, which then spread like wildfire throughout Europe... and the war was on.

Hitler's mandate was to take over Europe but he couldn't do it without Mussolini, nor can the Trump Labor Party do it without the Republican Party.
SatanBurger · 36-40, FVIP
The countries with the best healthcare, best childcare, longer life spans are typically secular so good luck with that.
@SatanBurger The OP is really just a description of the Nordic countries and the German Sprachraum.
SatanBurger · 36-40, FVIP
@BohemianBabe If you really think about it, under Trump's America these are the worst type of conservatives to really get an overall good economy, I say worst types because I recognize a political spectrum.

Like in countries with abortion outlawed, it is more religious by the very nature of pro life arguments. They also have a rise in all cause mortality between women and children, that's happening here too in the states.

It's widely argued that if you work on better child care programs, better health care programs AND have abortion plus contraceptives, people feel entitled to have MORE kids, not less. But as poverty rates soar, who is going to choose to have kids in an economy that threatens doctors and women with jail time like that?

They want the old ways that don't work AND want it to get better, you can't have both. That's the irony in saying you want better health care for your country AND you're also a Trump Maga person, you can't have both.

A lot of their policies are the exact opposite.
@SatanBurger
If you really think about it, under Trump's America these are the worst type of conservatives to really get an overall good economy, I say worst types because I recognize a political spectrum.

To put into perspective just how bad the Republicans have become, remember there was a time where the election was Obama vs Romney. The signature policy of the former, the ACA, was based on the a healthcare program created by the latter. And then the ACA ended up getting saved by McCain. But now in the age of Trumpism, Republicans want to cut the ACA, replace it with nothing, and then cut medicare and medicaid.

So yeah, there is a spectrum. McCain and Romney were to the Right of people like us, but they weren't far-right Fascists who just want the entire working-class to be poor.
Kypro · 51-55, M
With critical thinking at an all time low, maybe there is a causal relationship to these failures.
Ynotisay · M
@LetsDance I like hearing you need to confirm it. That's what people with self-respect do. You'll see that it's true. It's actually 54 percent. 21 percent of adults are considered illiterate.
LetsDance · FNew
Kypro · 51-55, M
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Good for you wanting all those things. but it does beg the question, what the H*ll are you doing in America if you want all that??😷
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
What happens when China attacks Australia? @whowasthatmaskedman
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Heartlander · 80-89, M
The way Democrats and their media stooges demonized MAGA and mocked the red hats was right out of the Nazi playbook when they demonized the Jews. Deplorable, etc. The 2 tiered justice system?

It’s pretty obvious that Hunter was cruising the globe serving as Joe Biden’s bagman. And for pointing that out Trump was impeached by a Democrat House?
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Neoerectus · M
@Heartlander Projection...
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
What has ANY of those wonderful things to do with the MAGA program???
Fa8393 · 41-45, M
Here , here to that . Make america great again . We wanted that and we got it .
Zeuro · 26-30, F
@Fa8393 that literally doesn’t address my response in the slightest. I support all those things too, the issue is you’re very confused as to how we can get those things
Fa8393 · 41-45, M
@Zeuro if I support those things then I support how trump will do them .
specman · 51-55, M
@Zeuro we would get those things if we’d voted for Kamala? If you think that then you don’t like America. Not trying to be ugly to you.
I'd be very interested to understand the thought process that leads you to both (a) want those things and (b) vote for Trump.

Can you elaborate?
AbbySvenz · F
Have you even read Project 2025?

Spoilers: it doesn’t do any of those things
4meAndyou · F
You just joined my list of SW members with admirable bravery for stating your beliefs, without regard for the vitriol you were sure to attract!!!

MAGA!!!!
Elessar · 26-30, M
Good luck with that, Trump's vocal about killing pretty much everything on your list
hunkalove · 61-69, M
You are so lost in a world of fear and hate you don't have a clue, do you?
Ynotisay · M
You can want those things. But you're on the diametrically opposed side in regards to making those things happen. Clearly.
You've swallowed sound bites, intended to manipulate with no basis in reality, and think they're true. They're not. By a longshot.
And to toss it out there? Marxism is not a thing in the U.S,. Never has been and never will be. So why say it?
I know why but you should come to that on your own.
Outstanding post!!
Nothing wrong with MAGA. Even Bill wanted to MAGA.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
Me too. That’s why I voted Harris.
Dino11 · M
Trump (45,47) By A MAGALandslide Mandate!
Dino11 · M
@Kypro Get Over It, The Woke Demshit and Lawfare Witch Hunt Era is Over,
Say the Majority of Americans and the SCOTUS
Trump (45,47) By A MAGA Landslide Mandate!
Kypro · 51-55, M
@Dino11 2 losses and a 49-48% win isn’t a mandate but don’t let facts interfere
Kypro · 51-55, M
It’s not improper to hunt a real witch
Dave1955 · 61-69, M
This is a list of USA fails.
You believe Trump will give us all those things, or just closer to it than the opposition? Did any of the third options give you more hope of these things?

How many of these can the president realistically make happen? What needs congress?
Vin53 · M
goodlil666 · 51-55, M
We had all that under Biden just ask any of his followers.
JimBeam · M
@goodlil666

And a secure border.
goodlil666 · 51-55, M
@JimBeam That's right a safe and secure border
JimBeam · M
@goodlil666

Biden was good at that.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Well. To be honest, I am sure the new owners will help with the last four once they take over..😷
Vin53 · M
And you think you can get ONE of those things with trump????

😝 🤣 😝 🤪
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