Yes, then I guess I am MAGA

@SatanBurger The OP is really just a description of the Nordic countries and the German Sprachraum.

@BohemianBabe If you really think about it, under Trump's America these are the worst type of conservatives to really get an overall good economy, I say worst types because I recognize a political spectrum.

Like in countries with abortion outlawed, it is more religious by the very nature of pro life arguments. They also have a rise in all cause mortality between women and children, that's happening here too in the states.

It's widely argued that if you work on better child care programs, better health care programs AND have abortion plus contraceptives, people feel entitled to have MORE kids, not less. But as poverty rates soar, who is going to choose to have kids in an economy that threatens doctors and women with jail time like that?

They want the old ways that don't work AND want it to get better, you can't have both. That's the irony in saying you want better health care for your country AND you're also a Trump Maga person, you can't have both.

A lot of their policies are the exact opposite.

@SatanBurger
To put into perspective just how bad the Republicans have become, remember there was a time where the election was Obama vs Romney. The signature policy of the former, the ACA, was based on the a healthcare program created by the latter. And then the ACA ended up getting saved by McCain. But now in the age of Trumpism, Republicans want to cut the ACA, replace it with nothing, and then cut medicare and medicaid.

So yeah, there is a spectrum. McCain and Romney were to the Right of people like us, but they weren't far-right Fascists who just want the entire working-class to be poor.