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MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
The 4 seasons deniers?
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Mesthartiya · M
@SumKindaMunster Then why is renewable energy uptake increasing exponentially worldwide?
And https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/carbon-brief/. Pro-science. High factual reporting.
And https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/carbon-brief/. Pro-science. High factual reporting.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Mesthartiya Dude...I was agreeing with you....🙄
Mesthartiya · M
@SumKindaMunster ok my man.
And also, one scientific study coming your way:
pertinent phrase "In 2019, China’s carbon emission intensity decreased by 48.1% compared with that in 2005 (National Bureau of Statistics of China (NBSC)5), achieving the reduced CI target of 40–45% by 2020 proposed during the 2009 Copenhagen Climate Change Conference. "
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-07283-4
And also, one scientific study coming your way:
pertinent phrase "In 2019, China’s carbon emission intensity decreased by 48.1% compared with that in 2005 (National Bureau of Statistics of China (NBSC)5), achieving the reduced CI target of 40–45% by 2020 proposed during the 2009 Copenhagen Climate Change Conference. "
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-07283-4
gol979 · 41-45, M
Define "climate denier".
Im old enough to have survived the hole in the ozone layer, acid rain, global cooling, global warming
Im old enough to have survived the hole in the ozone layer, acid rain, global cooling, global warming
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@gol979 First off it is climate change. And I am sorry you have a hard time reading and understanding grade 9 level science.
Hate to upset you but your SUV doesn't run on pixie dust.
Hate to upset you but your SUV doesn't run on pixie dust.
Mesthartiya · M
@gol979 How about you answer my question?
gol979 · 41-45, M
@Mesthartiya you have to define what you mean.....then we can answer your question. The definition is clearly an issue because multiple people have asked for a definition
HobNoblin · 36-40, M
That and what ever is most efficient. Have you tried wiring Klaus Schwab some money to stop the climate from changing?
ElwoodBlues · M
Yep, coal is dying due to market forces
Mesthartiya · M
@ElwoodBlues Yep, and the irony is that market forces actually incentivised the widespread burning of fossil fuels in the Industrial Revolution, creating the mess we're currently in, and now those markets are driving a renewables revolution that will help fix it!
of course the climate is changing, its done so for billions of years.
Mesthartiya · M
@YourMomsSecretCrush How about you answer my question?
SomeMichGuy · M
@YourMomsSecretCrush The recent change is counter to natural change.
akindheart · 61-69, F
I am a republican but i do believe in climate change. i saw firsthand when i saw pics of the Mendanhall glacier now and when i visited it. but i also believe the 2 largest contributors to pollution (China and India) should not have been allowed and extension to clean up and should do their part first.
Mesthartiya · M
@akindheart
I disagree
China and India may be the largest polluters NOW, but the US, UK and the Western world have emitted FAR more pollution than India and China ever will. It should have been up to us to do our bit first, but we're passing the buck.
i do believe in climate change.
Thank God you do. but i also believe the 2 largest contributors to pollution (China and India) should not have been allowed and extension to clean up and should do their part first.
I disagree
China and India may be the largest polluters NOW, but the US, UK and the Western world have emitted FAR more pollution than India and China ever will. It should have been up to us to do our bit first, but we're passing the buck.
akindheart · 61-69, F
@Mesthartiya nope. i don't agree. look at all the chinese production. they should not have been given a free pass. they need to do their part. we have made some strides in emissions at least. everyone should contribute
Mesthartiya · M
@akindheart China have made huge strides in curbing their emissions. They are massively investing in renewables and EVs and have slahed their carbon intensity by more than 50% in just one decade. They are most certainly "doing their bit." . And what do you mean by a "free pass"? If anything, it is the US and Europe that are getting a free pass, angrily pointing fingers at China and India and saying "what about them"? as if we in the West are not ultimately responsible for the mess we're in.
Still, at least we're singing from the same songsheet in that we want emissions curbed ASAP.
Still, at least we're singing from the same songsheet in that we want emissions curbed ASAP.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
Private industry should determine energy production. Keep govt out
Mesthartiya · M
@Patriot96 So you agree that the markets should determine how we generate our energy?
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
For these people it is all vibes based. So facts economic or scientific will likely have zero impact.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
"Climate denier"
...the hell does that mean?
...the hell does that mean?
Mesthartiya · M
@SumKindaMunster How about you answer my question?
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@SumKindaMunster I guess you walk out in the hot sun and say it is freezing.
ImperialAerosolKidFromEP · 51-55, M
I've actually drunk that klimate kool-aid but I do believe that markets should be brought into this. There have been a lot of bad ideas about greening the economy, (which is necessary, being an emerging science) so I'd like to see markets having some influence on that. That's why I'm putting solar panels on my roof: I think the payoff will be money, but how much of the planet will be saved by it is another question.
Mesthartiya · M
@ImperialAerosolKidFromEP Yep, markets will actually end up fixing the problem that they created way back at the start of the Industrial Revolution.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@Mesthartiya try reading some actual climate data.
Its been hotter before, on several occasions, its been much colder too. Weather happens, the climate changes, so does weather, long before the industrial age
Its been hotter before, on several occasions, its been much colder too. Weather happens, the climate changes, so does weather, long before the industrial age
Mesthartiya · M
@Patriot96 clearly. But you’re missing the point entirely, (and I suspect deliberately), which you would know if you had read some actual climate data 🤦🏻♂
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Mesthartiya · M
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MasterLee · 56-60, M
@Mesthartiya you should really work on that.
BuzzedLightyear · 61-69