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Why do you think tens of millions of Americans support a fascist candidate…

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They focus on the innocuous policies they favor and accept a calculated risk
They are truly receptive to the fascist core that Trumpism presents to them
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Jake966 · 56-60, M
Not sure how you call Trump a fascist after experiencing the last four years
CedricH · 22-25, M
@Jake966 Listening to what he‘s saying and looking at what he did and still does makes it questionable to call him anything but a fascist.
Jake966 · 56-60, M
@CedricH so when he was in office for those four years, lower interest rates, lower gas prices, lower inflation among other things made him a fascist? Besides the fact, he walked away from the White House without a fight.
CedricH · 22-25, M
@Jake966 Perhaps, it might‘ve been the fact that he didn’t want to leave the White House in the first place despite his evident loss, or that he engaged in election denialism, tried to overturn a democratic election, summoned a mob to intimate and coerce Congress to do his bidding or because he didn’t intervene when political violence broke out in his name.

These are the marks of a traitor, of a coward and of fascist. He is the very reason why the Founders created the impeachment mechanism. The unnerving question why these things aren’t plainly obvious to people like yourself is at the core of my polling question here.

Either they (like yourself) approve of his conduct based on a perverse worldview or they just refuse to comprehend what his conduct is indicative of. His authoritarianism is simply irrefutable. His whole image is build around it.
Jake966 · 56-60, M
@CedricH as far as January 6 is concerned, I really want somebody to point out to me where he initiated this act Of summoning a mob to Breach the capital building and nobody can even answer the question on why Nancy Pelosi and the governor of DC turn down his offer for extra security before the event
CedricH · 22-25, M
@Jake966 He initiated it by propagating falsehoods about the election, he encouraged an extremely angry and possibly violent protest because of his outrageous claims and lies.
The people that came to the rally and breached the Capitol were his loyalists. His followers. Did they just misunderstand him? Perhaps, they understood him better than you do. They were ready to make their leader‘s wishes come true whatever the cost may be for them and with total disregard for the constitution. After all, their leader would like to suspend the constitution for his own purposes anyways. And now, to close the circle, their leader is promising to pardon them, thereby creating a clear sense of impunity for acts of insurrection as long as they‘re done in his name.
He watched 3 hours from the WH while his staff begged him to intervene, enjoying the violence he summoned. He could’ve been a President, instead he opted to do what was only natural for a traitor and a fascist. He leaned back and led his mob do the dirty work for him. To teach all these career politicians a lesson. To make plain to them the consequences of disloyalty, of betraying Trump by certifying the election.
Jake966 · 56-60, M
@CedricH OK, based on that, can you tell me why Tim Walz sat in his house and watched his state burn while rioters looted and burn down buildings in certain towns in his state? The reason why I’m asking this is because if you want to pick on one politician, then let’s examine the other ones
Jake966 · 56-60, M
@CedricH and while you’re at it, can you please tell me why the current administration is giving its citizens that were victims of the flooding in hurricane $750 when after the hurricane they have sent billions overseas to Other countries to help them?
CedricH · 22-25, M
@Jake966 I would say he made a mistake but one that was unrelated to any personal political ambition of his to empower himself in an unconstitutional way. A mistake he acknowledged retroactively whereas Trump‘s only regret with respect to 6/1 is that he couldn’t legally pardon the insurrectionists while he was still in office.
In any case, if you‘d say you‘d rather have a dictator as a President who tacitly supports political violence than a weak-on-crime progressive, then just say. It would make you a fascist but that seems to be what you‘re alluding to.
Jake966 · 56-60, M
@CedricH so a governors job is to protect the people in his state and when the governor neglect to protect people in his state, that’s not against the constitution?
Jake966 · 56-60, M
@CedricH besides the fact that Harris helped raise millions of dollars to help defend the people who headed up those riots that burnt down those cities and that’s who you want to run our country? You make these accusations against Trump, but I haven’t seen any charges or court decisions that show that he was any part of that insurrection
CedricH · 22-25, M
@Jake966 No, what‘s needed to protect the people in his state is his call. He was elected to interpret that mandate. His neglect, however, didn’t conveniently serve the purpose to actually disintegrate the foundations of our democracy and our constitutional order. They were poor judgment. And should‘ve made him unelectable in any normal election, with a normal Republican. Under those circumstances it would be easy to vote against a Harris-Walz ticket. If the alternative, on the other hand, is a man who has clearly communicated his distaste for democratic norms, American virtues and the constitution, then Walz is a necessary liability.
CedricH · 22-25, M
@Jake966 https://www.fema.gov/node/rumor-serious-needs-assistance

Another authoritarian characteristic is to lie pathologically even if it undermines the disaster relief efforts that would help his own followers just so he can destroy any semblance of trust in the political system which he wants to dismantle, unconstitutionally.
Jake966 · 56-60, M
CedricH · 22-25, M
Republicans have approved of that military aid in Congress - even with Trump‘s blessing. Besides, that‘s not the issue here. You can very well be a non-fascist isolationist which would be strategically illiterate enough, but isolationism or the absence of isolationism is neither a necessary nor a sufficient condition for someone to be a fascist. So it‘s got nothing to do with this discussion.
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@Jake966 All spending packages, including the ones you listed, need to be approved by Congress before they can be distributed. Therefore, it's undeniably true that the republican House approved the packages AND enough Senate republicans approved to prevent a filibuster.

Trying to blame the actions of both chambers of Congress on the President is just fodder for low information voters.
Jake966 · 56-60, M
@ElwoodBlues it had to go before the president to be finally approved, right?
@Jake966 Trying to blame the actions of both chambers of Congress on the President is just fodder for low information voters.
Jake966 · 56-60, M
@ElwoodBlues then tell me what has Harris done in the last 4 yrs to better America ?
@Jake966 You don't want to hear about Harris's many accomplishments in the Alameda County DA's office? You don't want to hear about her many accomplishments as San Francisco's District Attorney? You don't want to hear about her many accomplishments as California's Attorney General? You don't want to hear about her many accomplishments as junior Senator from California??

Look, the Constitutional duties of the VP are almost non-existent. John Adams famously described the vice presidency as “the most insignificant Office” ever invented. None the less, Harris cast a record number of tie-breaking votes in the Senate, thus bringing crucial legislation for the President's signature.

For comparison, what did Mike Pence do during his four years as veep? Kinda stayed silent, didn't he??
Jake966 · 56-60, M
@ElwoodBlues Mike Pence also didn’t run for president so that’s the reason why I’m asking and if you want to know what Harris did in California has district attorney she tried eight cases. She also says that she was with the president throughout his term and was right on board with everything he did, of course she only worked 19 1/2 a week
Jake966 · 56-60, M
@ElwoodBlues or maybe you want to talk about the case where she withheld evidence in a trial for a man who was later found innocent, but because of her he was first found guilty?
@Jake966 says
if you want to know what Harris did in California has district attorney she tried eight cases.
Source???

According to the NY Post
The Alameda County DA’s office sent The Post a list of more than 60 names they said Harris had prosecuted during her time there.

A DA or an AG would not be in the courtroom, they would be directing other lawyers, suggesting legal strategies and relevant case law. As a DA and an AG Harris would have contributed to hundreds of cases.
Jake966 · 56-60, M
@ElwoodBlues you need to hear the interview with Judge Joe Brown. Also the interview with the lady who was a good friend of hers when she was DA.
@Jake966 And I should listen to a contempt-of-court former Tennessee judge about a California DA because why??

Yep, ol' Joe Brown was jailed for contempt of court after his TV show was cancelled!!
We are told Brown showed up to Juvenile Court Monday and agreed to represent someone pro bono in a child support case.

Juvenile Court Magistrate Harold Horne denied Brown’s request for the case to be dismissed.

Brown then reportedly lost control and became verbally abusive saying in part, “On what authority do you sit by the way? As a former judge here, we have a rule in the 30th judicial district that says every single magistrate, referee has to be unanimously approved by every circuit, chancery, and criminal court judge. I don’t recall that your name’s ever been submitted sir!”

Horne warned Brown to calm down, but he did not.

Brown was given 24 hours in jail for contempt of court, but that increased to five days when he continued to yell as he was being removed from the courtroom saying, “This is a circus sir. That’s three days. You can do all you want! Four days. You don’t have the jurisdiction. Five days.”

Brown’s television show was cancelled last year and he is now running for Shelby County District Attorney against Amy Weirich.
https://wreg.com/news/judge-joe-brown-arrested/

One more thing: in 2014 he ran for DA in Shelby County.
He lost the general election to Republican incumbent Amy Weirich by 65% to 35%, after making comments about her sexuality.