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I just read an interview with a woman from Pennsylvania who's voting for Trump because he's a business man and will get the economy in shape.

My question is this... He's been bankrupt 11 times, he even lost money operating a casino.

In what disconnected world does she see him as being successful.
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bookerdana · M
Fox business logic..but I'm not touching that Magaite because he tried to overturn a valid Presidential election
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@bookerdana not he wanted votes counted
Clinton tried to overturn the election with her Russian Collusion
bookerdana · M
@Patriot96 His own firm ,which he hired to find fraud found zip nada none
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@bookerdana kilary and dnc paid for a bogus dossier to frame trump
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Heartlander · 80-89, M
@bookerdana Was it a valid election when elements from within the government knowingly facilitated and promoted false evidence about one of the candidates? It’s like paying for something with stollen money. Does what you purchased with the stolen money now belong to you?
bookerdana · M
@Heartlander trumps own firm could not find voter fraud...as much as they wanted...i don't answer riddles,pal
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@bookerdana it wasn’t about election fraud. It was about the government itself, flashing badges of authority putting out false statements, colluding with social media as agents of the US Government. It was no different than a prosecutor presenting false evidence to a jury who then convicts an innocent person. How many DOJ officials, speaking with the authority of their office proclaimed the Hunter Biden laptop to be Russian misinformation when they knew it wasn’t.? Face it, the Biden administration is corrupt.
bookerdana · M
@Heartlander
facilitated and promoted false evidence about one of the candidates

care to give citations? After the re-enactment of the 1939 Nazi rally at MSG ,I wouldn't vote fer the Orange Deformity for a million dollars
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@bookerdana half a lifetime ago when I was in the Air Force I routinely spent a night or two in Berlin. At the time, the US military overnight billets was at a place called the Columbia House, a building which 25+ years earlier was the SS office building. On one visit me and my crew got a particularly fancy suite, 2 or 3 bedrooms, a dining room, marble shower stalls. When we first opened the door a bit of astonishment. God! Was this where Heinrich Himmler slept when he was in Berlin? A thought with an uneasy emotion. But then I thought: I’m here and he’s dead, and after unpacking we will go downstairs and have a feast of a dinner and toast the fact that we are here and Himmler is dead.

Spending a night in Berlin, even sleeping in a room once possibly occupied by Himmler himself didn’t make us Nazis, nor did Trump staging his event at MSG make him a Nazi.
bookerdana · M
@Heartlander Agreed hie actions in the last eight years has made him an extreme right NATIONALIST leader
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@bookerdana I wouldn't call him extreme right. What appears to be "right" is simply the void created by Democrats and he is filling it. Or maybe better said, the Americans abandoned by Democrats. As Obama said it, "elections have consequences" (and you no longer count).

My assessment of Trump 2024 is best explained by the people surrounding him: Vance, Musk, Kennedy, Gabbard, Burgum, Johnson, and another 2 or 3 dozen. A very different crowd from the one that mostly reluctantly supported him when he was elected in 2008 and who caved to Democrat intimidation for 4 years.
Trump is mostly a businessman who knows how to get complex things done, neither a right winger nor an Old Boy Republican. You don't build a hotel empire without being a very competent businessman. Protestant pragmatist kind of fits my definition of Trump. And Washington DC can't stand that.

I was trying to understand the connection between old-school Republicans and Harris, Chaney and daughter, now a Bush, and a few more. It finally hit me: The Military Industrial complex! I have to imagine the pairing of Trump and Musk scaring the crap out of politicians and friends of politicians getting rich with military contracts. Kind of like with foreign aid. And doesn't Cheney and the DOD go all the way back to Bush-1?
bookerdana · M
@Heartlander here ,this will help you get it

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bookerdana · M
@Heartlander btw, Columbia House,was a concentration camp
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@bookerdana Yes, for a while. Supposedly torture chambers and the works. But I believe it converted to SS offices and billets with the expansion of Tempelhof later. I recall seeing old newsreels from the 30s and 40s and I recognized the the entrance setup. The US Army later used it also as an officers' club with a big open dining area that was up a few steps from the grand entrance, and billets were on upper floors. The suite was comparable to VIP/penthouse suites in big US city hotels. I believe that most of that area has been bulldozed since my times. Tempelhof as I understand has since been converted to a people's park.

Jogging my memory, In like the mid1970s we took a family trip to Washington DC. and booked a steep discount space available room at the then old hotel across the street from the White House (the Washingtonian?) It was a "don't worry, we'll find a space for you somewhere" deal. And to our surprise we were put in one of their VIP suites (an award for just being a nice person). It was very much like that Columbia House suite.