Trump is saying "We gave the choice on abortion back to the states"....as if that's supposed to be a good thing.

@Patriot96 Yes. Try Google.

Anywhere that abortion is banned death goes up.

But they are just women, right?

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow but you have not named one instance where a woman died from lack of abortion

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow

"United States nearly doubled from 2018 to 2021, but decreased to 22.3 deaths per 100,000 live births in 2022:

Causes: The increase could be due to a number of factors, including:

Changes in maternal medical conditions

Changes in maternal mortality surveillance, such as the introduction of the pregnancy checkbox

The COVID-19 pandemic, which may have limited access to health care and increased the risk of respiratory or viral conditions

An increase in the average maternal age, which is a well-established risk factor for maternal mortality "

"The rise in reported maternal mortality rates in the United States may also be due to a change in measurement that was gradually introduced between 2003 and 2017. This change helped to identify more deaths that meet the criteria for maternal deaths, but also led to some misclassification"

Don't see anything that says lack of ability to have an abortion ... do you?????
DO YOU ??????????

@pdockal my point exactly. Thanks

@Patriot96 https://www.nbcnews.com/health/womens-health/texas-abortion-ban-deaths-pregnant-women-sb8-analysis-rcna171631

You didn't even try to research the other side of the issue.
Dishonest.

@Pikachu

How is that dishonest ?????
Just because you say so ?????
Just because you disagree ????

@pdockal You love making excuses so you can pretend there are no consequences for your extremist beliefs.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow

My beliefs aren't extreme
Your beliefs make society worse
Killing is wrong but you don't seem to think that and you think your excuses excuse you

@pdockal They are very extreme.


No. Yours objectively make society worse. We literally have the data to prove it too.

Your feelings don't change facts.


I see you failed biology class in school.

@pdockal


No, because i assumed only a dishonest person would be ignorant of the real life examples, some even main stream media examples, of women dying as a result of abortion bans.

But perhaps you were earnestly ignorant of these examples in which case i'm sure you followed my link and educated yourself.

So are you now aware that women are indeed losing their lives as a result of these so called "states rights"?

@Pikachu

Tsk Tsk you assumed
Maybe redo your research
Abortion is termination of a fetus which is killing a life ... doesn't matter how you try to spin it

@pdockal

Yup i did assume. I said that.

And then i asked you a question.....so what's your answer?

@Pikachu

Your questions are irrevelent
Your questions are mentioned to cause trouble
Abortion is killing no matter how you spin it
That you can't change

Did you redo your research ?????

@pdockal

Facts don't care about your feelings. You need to start looking at facts.

@pdockal Clearly you didn't even do high school level homework versions of research because you would fail 10th grade biology.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow not sure but i have a BA, MBA, BSN and 30 ER nursing experience. If a woman died it wasnt from lack of access to an abortion, it was poor medical care

@Pikachu

You say facts but you neglect the fact that your willing to kill a life for convenience
Your lost
You make society worse
I feel sorry for you

@pdockal


When a woman's life is in danger is that convenience?
When a woman risks never being able to have kids again is that convenience?
When a CHILD is raped and becomes pregnant is that a convenience?

Additionally, the FACT is that in places where abortion is banned or restricted, the number of abortions goes UP and the number of women dying GOES UP.

So tell me again how you care about life.

These are the facts. Your response is emotional, not thoughtful, not logical and not even compassionate.

Degenerate, sheep.

I've finished with you .

@Pikachu

Your never finished
Especially when someone has an opinion different then your's

All the items you pointed to are horrible but are a very low percentage of the greater issue
Your condoning killing a life for convince
I can't
I won't