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SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
Georgia is going to apologise to Russia for what, exactly? Not being more helpful when Russia used Abhkazia and South Ossetia to launch attacks against sovereign Georgian territory and ethnically cleanse the separatist areas?
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@SunshineGirl That is the complete opposite of what actually happened.
Georgia started that war, hence the apology.
Georgia started that war, hence the apology.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Complete and utter rubbish. The war began on 1 August 2008 when Russian backed separatists in South Ossetia began shelling Georgian villages in the autonomous region, thereby breaching the 1992 ceasefire agreement which established Georgia as an independent state. When Georgian peacekeepers fired back, Russia used this as an "excuse" to invade undisputed sovereign Georgian territory.
The deterioration of relations between Georgia and Russia can be traced to the election of Putin in Russia in 2000 and the Rose Revolution in Georgia in 2003 which replaced a Russian puppet regime with a pro-West government.
The deterioration of relations between Georgia and Russia can be traced to the election of Putin in Russia in 2000 and the Rose Revolution in Georgia in 2003 which replaced a Russian puppet regime with a pro-West government.
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@SunshineGirl That is factually wrong. even the EU and OSCE Report says you are wrong.
But you are proof that years later western governments can lie an you will never even bother looking into it and will just accept it as fact.
Sakashvilli is in a Georgian prison for starting the war and for throwing all his rivals in torture dungeons.
You got the second part partly right. The Rose revolution installed a pro western puppet government. And being "pro Russian" is literally any government that doesn't lick boots for Washington and Brussels.
But you are proof that years later western governments can lie an you will never even bother looking into it and will just accept it as fact.
Sakashvilli is in a Georgian prison for starting the war and for throwing all his rivals in torture dungeons.
You got the second part partly right. The Rose revolution installed a pro western puppet government. And being "pro Russian" is literally any government that doesn't lick boots for Washington and Brussels.
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@SunshineGirl And if Putin is really the cartoon cliche you and others make him out to be. Hell bent on global conquest or European conquest or whatever the story is this week. Explain this.
Find another example of a conqueror hellbent on creating an empire that gave back an entire country after winning, Good luck with that.
Because the two are completely opposing motivations. Georgia was taken in a week. Yet Russia had no interest in occupying the country.
Do a bit of critical thinking and some basic googling before you just accept whatever you are told.
Find another example of a conqueror hellbent on creating an empire that gave back an entire country after winning, Good luck with that.
Because the two are completely opposing motivations. Georgia was taken in a week. Yet Russia had no interest in occupying the country.
Do a bit of critical thinking and some basic googling before you just accept whatever you are told.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow He is in prison on charges of corruption and GBH against an assembly member. Nothing to do with the war.
Russia occupied four Georgian cities and withdrew troops from them twoi months later. The ECHR has stated that Russia exerts direct control over the two supposedly separatist regions and has committed serious human rights abuses. In 2022 the ICC issued arrest three warrants against Russian nationals for war crimes.
Russia occupied four Georgian cities and withdrew troops from them twoi months later. The ECHR has stated that Russia exerts direct control over the two supposedly separatist regions and has committed serious human rights abuses. In 2022 the ICC issued arrest three warrants against Russian nationals for war crimes.
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@SunshineGirl Well the warrants were issued in 2009 or 2010. What the prosecutor took to court is one thing.
What speaks volumes is first instead of handing him over as the US is required by treaty they first harbored him in the US, then made him governor of Odessa, Ukraine which he left because of the corruption which is hilarious given the source.
I see you are moving the goalposts and very deliberately avoiding the findings of the EU and OSCE.
And Russia has had peacekeepers in the region since 1991-1992.
By the some logic peacekeepers in the Balkans control half a dozen republics.
And even if we take the war crimes claim at face value which is by itself an issue.
It says nothing about who started the war and war crimes are prosecuted against individuals.
What speaks volumes is first instead of handing him over as the US is required by treaty they first harbored him in the US, then made him governor of Odessa, Ukraine which he left because of the corruption which is hilarious given the source.
I see you are moving the goalposts and very deliberately avoiding the findings of the EU and OSCE.
And Russia has had peacekeepers in the region since 1991-1992.
By the some logic peacekeepers in the Balkans control half a dozen republics.
And even if we take the war crimes claim at face value which is by itself an issue.
It says nothing about who started the war and war crimes are prosecuted against individuals.