What is Democracy?
Is anointing Kamala as the new nominee, part of the democratic process?
Or should the people have a say?
Or should the people have a say?
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TinyViolins · 31-35, M
According to Trump, it's:
-creating fraudulent electoral certificates
-submitting fake electors to the VP
-pressuring the Justice Department to falsely claim fraud had been found
-pressuring the Defense Department to seize ballots
-pressuring Wayne County officials to reject certifying election results
-pressuring Georgia's Secretary of State to overturn his state's election
-obstructing recounts in Wisconsin
-attempting to seize voting machines in Michigan
-firing his AG when he wouldn't lie on his behalf
-firing every official that contradicted his voter fraud conspiracy and replacing them with yes-men
-filing dozens of baseless lawsuits that all got rejected (including by his own judges)
-encouraging his minions to harass and intimidate poll workers and election officials
-scheming with loyalists to have Congress overturn the election results
-pressuring his VP to block certification
-wasting half a billion taxpayer dollars conducting fruitless audits
-inciting a crowd to "fight like hell" at the US Capital while certification was taking place
-creating fraudulent electoral certificates
-submitting fake electors to the VP
-pressuring the Justice Department to falsely claim fraud had been found
-pressuring the Defense Department to seize ballots
-pressuring Wayne County officials to reject certifying election results
-pressuring Georgia's Secretary of State to overturn his state's election
-obstructing recounts in Wisconsin
-attempting to seize voting machines in Michigan
-firing his AG when he wouldn't lie on his behalf
-firing every official that contradicted his voter fraud conspiracy and replacing them with yes-men
-filing dozens of baseless lawsuits that all got rejected (including by his own judges)
-encouraging his minions to harass and intimidate poll workers and election officials
-scheming with loyalists to have Congress overturn the election results
-pressuring his VP to block certification
-wasting half a billion taxpayer dollars conducting fruitless audits
-inciting a crowd to "fight like hell" at the US Capital while certification was taking place
sree251 · 41-45, M
@TinyViolins Forget Trump. What is democracy to you?
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@TinyViolins Perfect. Best Comment.
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@sree251 A system that gives people a say in who represents them.
With regards to this election cycle, people already knew Harris would continue as Biden's VP. People also figured Joe was old and getting older. The likelihood of Harris becoming President goes back to 2020.
Yes, I would rather see an open convention. It doesn't send a good message to have a presumptive nominee without her own campaign.
But the reality here is that nobody was ever that enthusiastic about Biden. People knew that Trump was unfit for office and Biden had name recognition and was moderate enough to pull independents. You can make the exact same argument now for Harris and it substantively changes nothing
With regards to this election cycle, people already knew Harris would continue as Biden's VP. People also figured Joe was old and getting older. The likelihood of Harris becoming President goes back to 2020.
Yes, I would rather see an open convention. It doesn't send a good message to have a presumptive nominee without her own campaign.
But the reality here is that nobody was ever that enthusiastic about Biden. People knew that Trump was unfit for office and Biden had name recognition and was moderate enough to pull independents. You can make the exact same argument now for Harris and it substantively changes nothing
sree251 · 41-45, M
@TinyViolins
Do you have a say in who represents you? Did you have a say to pick Biden and Harris to replace him?
A system that gives people a say in who represents them.
Do you have a say in who represents you? Did you have a say to pick Biden and Harris to replace him?
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@sree251 Well he swept up most of the delegates before my state ever got a primary, so no. I wanted Marianne Williamson or Dean Phillips, but they never stood a chance. None of the Republican candidates besides Christie were palatable
This lack of a referendum around Harris is not great for optics, but realistically she's the only other Democrat running with name recognition or media access, so her nomination is basically inevitable
This lack of a referendum around Harris is not great for optics, but realistically she's the only other Democrat running with name recognition or media access, so her nomination is basically inevitable
sree251 · 41-45, M
@TinyViolins
Inevitable? This means that you never had a say. It's like mom stuffing spinach down your throat when you were five. And that's is the kind of democracy we have been defending at the cost of trillions of dollars of American taxpayers' money and millions of people's lives in foreign countries we bombed.
This lack of a referendum around Harris is not great for optics, but realistically she's the only other Democrat running with name recognition or media access, so her nomination is basically inevitable
Inevitable? This means that you never had a say. It's like mom stuffing spinach down your throat when you were five. And that's is the kind of democracy we have been defending at the cost of trillions of dollars of American taxpayers' money and millions of people's lives in foreign countries we bombed.
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@sree251 I can choose who to vote for, but not who runs
sree251 · 41-45, M
@TinyViolins
Ok, I get that. Democracy is an idealism. We are all sitting in a boat sailing to the moon.
I can choose who to vote for, but not who runs
Ok, I get that. Democracy is an idealism. We are all sitting in a boat sailing to the moon.