198 Democrats vote in favor of election interference.

On Wednesday night, 198 house Democrats voted against a bill that would require proof of citizenship to register to vote. Democrats have spent years spewing fake outrage over foreign election interference after falsely claiming it lead to Donald Trump being elected president. There is no reason for Democrats to oppose this law besides the obvious reason which is out of desperation they want illegal immigrants voting in our federal elections. This is the main reason so many Democrats remain unbothered by the crisis at our southern border. For those who can see right through the Democrats web of nonsense please continue to pray for our republic.

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BohemianBabe · M

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@BohemianBabe I say that and I’m someone. Know who doesn’t like it because it is true, you.

BohemianBabe · M

@SW-User You misunderstand. I'm saying that you're strawmanning.

Not that the two are even remotely the same thing, anyway. Aside from the fact that there was no sweeping law that said you had to show vaccine papers, it makes sense that you need to be vaccinated to be in certain spaces. The voter ID laws are just an attempt at stopping people from voting.

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@BohemianBabe Gotcha and yes, many employers required proof of vaccination and many sporting events required it to enter.

It’s not an attempt to keep legal people from voting. It’s a safeguard to keep illegal people from voting. I can’t understand why any red blooded American wouldn’t want to prevent this from happening.

BohemianBabe · M

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many employers required proof of vaccination and many sporting events required it to enter.

And you know that's not the same as the government making it a law and enforcing it, right? Like if I decide I want everyone working in my store to be vaccinated, that's not like the government demanding you prove you'd been vaxed.

It’s not an attempt to keep legal people from voting. It’s a safeguard to keep illegal people from voting. I can’t understand why any red blooded American wouldn’t want to prevent this from happening.

Illegals already aren't allowed to vote. This would only stop legal citizens from voting. Also, legal non-citizens should be allowed to vote because they live here too.

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@BohemianBabe We will just have to agree to disagree on this issue.

ElwoodBlues · M

@SW-User Look, attending a Taylor Swift concert is not a constitutionally mandated right the way voting is. So in a legal sense, the two are wildly different.

Also, Taylor Swift concerts tend to be held at privately owned venues, and the venue owner has wide scope to set rules for the safety of all concert patrons. Such as banning alcohol and weapons. And checking for fevers. And checking for vaccination if there's a national health alert or something.

That said, I've got NO PROBLEM with the theory of voter ID, as long as it's free and easy. I DO have a problem with the practice of making it differentially harder for the elderly & working poor. https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/challenge-obtaining-voter-identification

The GAO estimate says current voter ID laws reduce turnout by 2 or 3% per election. Let's take the lower number, 2%. That means that in the 2020 election, current voter ID laws deprived over 3 million people of their vote. Now I agree voter fraud is a problem. But isn't voter disenfranchisement similarly a problem? How would you weigh 300 cases of in person voter fraud against 3 million cases of voter disenfranchisement?

So yeah, I'm in agreement with you about voter ID.
AS LONG AS it is free and easy and doesn't become voter suppression. Can you agree with that position, @SW-User??

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@ElwoodBlues Those are two words that best describes me: free and easy. 😂

ElwoodBlues · M

@SW-User Let's take a look at Alabama, where they passed a voter ID law that took effect in 2014. Yeah, they closed a whole bunch of “driver license offices” in predominantly black counties. Thus making it much more difficult for certain “demographics” to obtain voter ID. Coincidence?? I think not🤣😂

October 1, 2015
On Wednesday, Alabama’s Law Enforcement Agency announced that it was closing down 31 “driver license offices” around the state due to an $11 million cut in the budget that funded those operations. The closed offices hosted part-time DMV workers in mostly rural counties. This might seem like a typical, unfortunate spate of layoffs that come with budget cuts. But Al.com columnist Kyle Whitmire wrote in a recent op-ed that “there's something bigger happening here.”

Whitmire ties the DMV office closings to the state’s voter photo-ID law, passed in 2011, which went into effect last year. These laws, which have been popping up in several states over the past few years, have been controversial because they tend to make it more difficult for certain populations to vote. That happens to be African Americans, Latino Americans, women, and college students—groups least likely to need or have a photo ID, or who have IDs that have don’t fit within the often-narrow constraints of voter ID laws. According to Whitmire, as many as half of the counties where the DMV closings are taking place are in the rural “Black Belt,” where large populations of poor African Americans live.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-01/alabama-closes-dmv-offices-a-year-after-voter-id-law-kicks-in

BohemianBabe · M

@ElwoodBlues Every time we look closer at these voter ID bills, we find out that they're made to restrict three groups from voting. It's always black people, poor people, and young people. Three groups that tend to vote Democrat.

strictdadhusbandanduncleinpa · 41-45, M

@ElwoodBlues No let's not look at what happened in Alabama in 2014. Let's focus on what's happening right now

LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

@SW-User COVID-19 has been proven to kill. That's the fuсking difference.