Just Stop Oil vandalise Stonehenge by spraying it with orange paint.
Yes, DRASTIC action needs to be taken to address the climate crisis, but...in this case...
WHY????
Yes, DRASTIC action needs to be taken to address the climate crisis, but...in this case...
WHY????
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zonavar68 · 56-60, M
JSO are a clueless mob. Using things derived from oil and other fossil fuels to advocate for not using things made from oil and other fossil fuels.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@zonavar68 Indeed!
I expect most of their clothes are made from Nylon and other synthetic fabrics, too. And I wonder how they arrived at Stonehenge, right out in the countryside? On foot, wearing plastic-soled boots, or cycles perhaps with carbon-fibre frames? Or planned their escapade - using modern telephones etc. impossible without petroleum-derivate materials?
I wonder how many of them have even the most basic understanding of everyday science and engineering they should have been taught (or were but failed to learn) in school science and geography. Though I worry far too many people in politics, the Press and even civilised environmental campaigning are just as ignorant.
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Some JSO vandals have just been jailed - rightly in my view although think massive fines, compensation orders and community-service orders would be better - for causing enormous disruption to many thousands of people using one of Britain's most important motorways.
I doubt it even dawned on them that that action would have wasted a very large quantity of petrol and Diesel fuels with needless proportional rise in CO2 pollution, as drivers tried to find alternative, much more difficult and congested routes. Still, the JSO fools were not paying for that fuel, so why would they care?
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Please don't get me wrong -
I know the prospect of artificial climate-change by burning vast amounts of hydrocarbon fuels is real and was first raised over 100 years ago.
Very real too, is pollution anyway in crowded cities, including occasionally, thick smogs. Hence measures like the Clean Air Acts, introduced in 1950s Britain after a terrible smog (Smoke+Fog portmanteau) exacerbated or caused many respiratory diseases, even fatalities, in London.
(Coal was still a major fuel or fuel-source industrially and domestically, in Britain at the time; while the Diesel engined vehicles then used did not have the sophisticated injection systems, particle-filters and NOx catalysers of their much more efficient, modern versions.)
What I do object to, is arguing technical matters from no basic technical knowledge; and I certainly have no time for vandalism and its dim-witted "direct action" apologias by the vacuous.
I expect most of their clothes are made from Nylon and other synthetic fabrics, too. And I wonder how they arrived at Stonehenge, right out in the countryside? On foot, wearing plastic-soled boots, or cycles perhaps with carbon-fibre frames? Or planned their escapade - using modern telephones etc. impossible without petroleum-derivate materials?
I wonder how many of them have even the most basic understanding of everyday science and engineering they should have been taught (or were but failed to learn) in school science and geography. Though I worry far too many people in politics, the Press and even civilised environmental campaigning are just as ignorant.
....
Some JSO vandals have just been jailed - rightly in my view although think massive fines, compensation orders and community-service orders would be better - for causing enormous disruption to many thousands of people using one of Britain's most important motorways.
I doubt it even dawned on them that that action would have wasted a very large quantity of petrol and Diesel fuels with needless proportional rise in CO2 pollution, as drivers tried to find alternative, much more difficult and congested routes. Still, the JSO fools were not paying for that fuel, so why would they care?
.....
Please don't get me wrong -
I know the prospect of artificial climate-change by burning vast amounts of hydrocarbon fuels is real and was first raised over 100 years ago.
Very real too, is pollution anyway in crowded cities, including occasionally, thick smogs. Hence measures like the Clean Air Acts, introduced in 1950s Britain after a terrible smog (Smoke+Fog portmanteau) exacerbated or caused many respiratory diseases, even fatalities, in London.
(Coal was still a major fuel or fuel-source industrially and domestically, in Britain at the time; while the Diesel engined vehicles then used did not have the sophisticated injection systems, particle-filters and NOx catalysers of their much more efficient, modern versions.)
What I do object to, is arguing technical matters from no basic technical knowledge; and I certainly have no time for vandalism and its dim-witted "direct action" apologias by the vacuous.