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Florida Sheriff Sounds Off On Democrats Fleeing Failing Cities, “Go Back”

Sheriff Carmine Marceno, originally from New York and now the sheriff of Florida’s Lee County, a position he has held since 2018, is taking a hard line on liberals fleeing from failing Democrat-run cities and criminals who might move out of those cities even as they eliminate cash bail and try to reduce incarceration of criminals. Sheriff Marceno emphasized his tough-on-crime stance in a recent interview with Fox News Digital.

Speaking to Fox News Digital about his stance on dealing with criminals, Sheriff Marceno said, “My message… is clear. If you think you can deal poison and commit crime, stay clear of Lee County and all the great state of Florida. We’re ready, and we will absolutely find you, hunt you down, and charge you to force the extent of the law.”

Continuing, he sounded off on people who flee failing far-left states like California and New York and then bring their terrible voting decisions with them to Florida, saying, “They want to leave California. They want to leave New York. Okay. And then they come down to a state like Florida, where we are law and order, and they don’t change their views.”

Explaining why that is such a ridiculous thing to do, Sheriff Marceno noted that voting in that way just brings those terrible policy choices to a place that’s only functioning because of their absence, thus turning the haven into a disaster. He said, “You left a place where there’s havoc, where people can rob, steal, loot, do drugs in safe havens. And then you’re upset that it’s so bad there, and you come here and still do the same thing. Same action, same result.”

That’s when he said that he tells those who would move to Florida and then vote in such a way that they need to leave Florida and go back to the crime-wracked hellhole from which they came. He said, “I tell people all the time, and it’s probably not popular to some. If you don’t like living with law and order, have a nice day. Leave. Go back to where you came from because we don’t want you here.”

Continuing on that point, he explained that Florida is welcoming of all except those who promote lawlessness, saying, “We welcome everyone to our great state of Florida. But if you think lawlessness leads the way, if you believe that criminals should roam the streets and steal and rob and, God forbid, deal poison to the streets and kill innocent people, you’re not the person we want here. You can go back and live with lawlessness.”
Vin53 · M
NY's crime rate is lower than FL's by a measure of 10 states. You cons are like shooting fish in a barrel.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@QueenOfZaun So take a stroll in new york sometime
QueenOfZaun · 26-30, F
@sunsporter1649 I would like to one day. Perhaps I shall.
@sunsporter1649 says
take a stroll in new york sometime
Millions of people do every day! It's a FAR more pedestrian oriented place than any Florida city.

NYC has 538.9 violent crimes per 100K population. That puts it 59th on the list of violence in US cities; exceeded by Jacksonville (631), St Petersburg (698), Miami (720), and Orlando (744).

But where Florida really stands out is property crimes. FL 2,145.7 per 100K; vs NY 1,373.3. So much more theft in Florida. SAD!!
@sunsporter1649 says
Especially in new york, where crime is through the roof, and nobody is prosecuted, except Republicans
DUUUDE!!!
The numbers tell a different story.

Murder is the most carefully reported and counted crime. Florida has 7.2 per 100K pop; New York has 4.5. Because murder reporting rates are so high, it makes a good check on other crime stats.

Next up, violent crime: New York has about 5 percent lower at 358.6 violent crimes per 100,000 residents versus Florida's 378.4 rate.

Property crime rates: FL 2,145.7 per 100K; NY 1,373.3

Now let's compare cities. NYC has 538.9 violent crimes per 100K population. That puts it 59th on the list of violence in US cities; exceeded by Jacksonville (631), St Petersburg (698), Miami (720), and Orlando (744).

No two ways about it; Florida is a higher crime state than New York, and at least four Florida cites are significantly more dangerous than New York City. But where Florida really stands out is in property crime rates, and since they are far more numerous than violent crimes, that explains the high Florida arrest & incarceration rates.

@sunsporter1649 says
That is because, unlike new york,
If that were true, and New York were more violent, then you should certainly be able to cite some statistics to support your claims and refute my claims. BTW, if you're gonna try that using arrest rates, remember to disaggregate property crime arrests from violent crime arrests.
DavidT8899 · 22-25, M
I wouldn't have a problem with Florida inventing some sort of ideological test for new arrivals.Anyone with the wrong views will have two choices:leave immediately and never return or removed forcibly.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Kwek00 A career criminal indicted in February on a murder charge for allegedly beating to death a 67-year-old man was freed without bail by a Manhattan judge on Thursday, The Post has learned.

Eugene Clark was on parole when he was initially charged by cops with assault for the Sept. 20, 2020, pummeling of Ramon Luna, 67, who was knocked into a coma before dying from his injuries last August, police sources said.

Clark, 54, allegedly socked Luna in the head, causing the victim to fall to the ground and lose consciousness at the intersection of 125th Street and Lexington Avenue in Harlem, police sources said.

As Luna lay defenseless on the ground, Clark and another man allegedly rifled through the victim’s pockets and snatched some of his belongings, prosecutors said.

A third suspect, Unique Powers, allegedly poured an unknown substance on Luna’s face and also rifled through his pants, sources and prosecutors said. She’s been charged in the case with assault and grand larceny.

Luna was taken to Harlem Hospital after the vicious attack. Doctors there discovered he had suffered multiple brain bleeds, according to a criminal complaint.

Police busted Clark nine days after the brutal attack. During questioning, he allegedly identified himself on surveillance video that captured the incident and admitted to pushing the victim to the ground, according to prosecutors and sources.

The alleged assailant was also slapped with a grand larceny charge and ultimately released on bail on his initial charges.

But following Luna’s death on Aug. 4, 2021, the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office convened a grand jury in the case.

On Feb. 2, a grand jury in Manhattan Supreme Court indicted Clark for murder in the second degree, assault, two counts of robbery and grand larceny.

The suspect was arraigned Thursday on the superseding charges. At the hearing, Manhattan prosecutors requested that Clark be remanded without bail.

But in a shocking move, Judge April Newbauer released Clark on his own recognizance.

Clark, who will be screened for electronic monitoring, is due back in court on June 12.

Sources said Clark has an extensive criminal history dating back to 1983 for charges including robbery, gang assault and criminal sale of a controlled substance.

At the time of his alleged attack on Luna, Clark was out on parole for a past robbery, sources said.

One source familiar with the investigation slammed Newbauer’s decision to free Clark.

“I couldn’t believe it,” the source fumed. “Never, in all my years, have I heard of something like this before. [Clark] implicated himself in [Luna’s} death and now he’s free? Even the DA asked for remand.”

Newbauer had also faced scrutiny over two years ago for her decision not to jail a woman who was later charged with murder.

In December 2020, Kaylha Armand had pleaded guilty to two assault cases — including an attack on a Rikers Island correction officer from 2018.

Prosecutors had sought to have Armand sentenced to one to three years in prison, but Newbauer held off imposing the sentence and instead ordered Armand to undergo mental health treatment and check in periodically in court, according to the Bronx District’s Attorney’s Office.

In August of that year, Armand, who was 20 at the time, was arrested for allegedly stabbing a woman to death in Washington Heights.
@Kwek00 Don't you see though? One attention-getting anecdote negates a world of statistics!

Sure, Florida has 7.2 murders per 100K pop; New York has 4.5.

Sure, NYC has 538.9 violent crimes per 100K population, which puts it 59th on the list of violence in US cities, exceeded by Jacksonville (631), St Petersburg (698), Miami (720), and Orlando (744).

Sure,Florida really stands out in property crimes. FL 2,145.7 per 100K; vs NY 1,373.3.

Sure, Florida has demonstrably higher crime rates than New York.

BUT!! Pay no attention to those facts behind the curtain!! Focus on the latest attention-getting anecdote!!!

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues You forgot to mention the bridge you bought on the cheap
@sunsporter1649 claims
Especially in new york, where crime is through the roof,

Only it's NOT, eejit.
That's a pure LIE, eejit.
Just because you read it on 8chan doesn't make it true, eejit.
And you're afraid to post your source, eejit.

Here's a graph of the US violent crime rate by year.

US Violent Crime Rate With 8.2 Percent Decline in 2023, 1960 - 2023 (Source: FBI) [based on data available mid-december 2023]

Some suggest crime numbers are falling because we're not apprehending criminals. Just the opposite: incarceration rates rose as crime reports dropped.



AND.
The stats I've already posted under this question PROVE that New York is safer and lower crime than Florida.

You can keep spreading lies, eejit, but everybody KNOWS they're lies, eejit.


Your only response is: pay no attention to those facts behind the curtain!! Focus on the latest attention-getting anecdote!!!
BigGuy2 · 26-30, M
It does make your blood boil doesn't it ... these nutjobs are so brainwashed, that they escape what they've caused and can't grasp that they shouldn't be doing it again
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@BigGuy2 I just tell them "we don't give a damn how you did it up north".
DavidT8899 · 22-25, M
@BigGuy2 You would think it would be common sense:the leaders who wanted these polices are what turned my state into a place I had to run from .In my new home,Im going to vote to leaders who won't do those things!
BigGuy2 · 26-30, M
@DavidT8899 ... well said

 
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