Do you think the left or the right will fix the state of the US?
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zonavar68 · 51-55, M
Part of the problem (which exists everywhere that you have more than one main political party) is the concept of each party's core ideology.
Traditionally, 'left wing' is more people-focused and wants to share the 'good stuff' with everyone more equitably, while 'right wing is purely focused on accelerated wealth concentration for the elite and screwing everyone else.
The trouble is that over time, these things change a bit. Sometimes the shift is more to the right (where major parties all shift more towards fascist thinking) and sometimes the shift is more to the left (where major parties shift to more populist thinking).
Unfortunately, government is almost exclusively a combination of reliigion and corporate elite so the thrust to the 'right' is often much bigger than the thrust to the left. We saw this with Trump's first term as Big Cheese where he tried to isolate the USA and pander to religion, business, elite, and similar circles. We had that here with the Scott Morrison federal government until the 2022 election.
Government, being formed from/by/for/about/with the 'elite' never really cares about the people, regardless of which flavour of ideology currently holds office.
Traditionally, 'left wing' is more people-focused and wants to share the 'good stuff' with everyone more equitably, while 'right wing is purely focused on accelerated wealth concentration for the elite and screwing everyone else.
The trouble is that over time, these things change a bit. Sometimes the shift is more to the right (where major parties all shift more towards fascist thinking) and sometimes the shift is more to the left (where major parties shift to more populist thinking).
Unfortunately, government is almost exclusively a combination of reliigion and corporate elite so the thrust to the 'right' is often much bigger than the thrust to the left. We saw this with Trump's first term as Big Cheese where he tried to isolate the USA and pander to religion, business, elite, and similar circles. We had that here with the Scott Morrison federal government until the 2022 election.
Government, being formed from/by/for/about/with the 'elite' never really cares about the people, regardless of which flavour of ideology currently holds office.
curiouslady93 · 31-35, F
@zonavar68 Trouble is with your second paragraph. Pareto's law correctly explains that in any system, a small number of the proponents will control most of the output. However, with a leftie big government, an even smaller number of people will hog an even larger amount of power, and it will be enforced without consent by the state, using force.
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zonavar68 · 51-55, M
@curiouslady93 Another aspect is the use of the term 'liberal'. In Australia, that is the Liberal National Party which is the Aussie version of the ultra neo-con GOP aka Republican Party, but in the USA you use 'liberal' to describe the Democrats which here equates to the Australian Labor Party. So when an Aussie talks about 'liberal' it applies to neo-con's.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@zonavar68 Another part of the problem (though I agree with your analysis) is that labels can be coopted over time. Terms like "Left, Right, Consertavice and Elite tend to mean vastly different things than they used to. There is no authentic left in America. Just as there is no authentic Communism anywhere any more. In fact the "behind the scenes" management of the left and right nations is not that far apart in how it is actually managed, until you get down to a case like North Korea which is virtually a Feudal basket case..Both sides are managed by the money. Who has it, who needs it to stay in place and who gets to keep it..😷
zonavar68 · 51-55, M
@whowasthatmaskedman The big-money families behind the US economy being a prime example. Once in the high echelon they will tend to stay there and they are actually the 'rulers' of the executive branch of government at every level. Those interests become the cartel that basically control the UN/WHO/WEF/IMF as well.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@zonavar68 I agree. And whenever there is a nice fat govt contract to be let, someone gets a taste. Obamacare was $crewed by every insurance company wanting a profit from what should have been a public good..😷