@AthrillatheHunt $25.xx with tax, remember when a box of short rounds for Grandaddy's midway gallery pump .22 was like 15 cents for a box of 50, and that we could buy them when we were eight?
@NativePortlander1970 aw man, I didn’t grow up w firearms . My first purchase was like 20 years ago. But I remember routinely buying cigs for my mom when I was about that age. lol
@sree251 that's I think the Socrates Plato model of a village you're talking about and it's futile if we are the two doing it here in SW
We are discussing this with advanced technology where we are having a written communication, which was not there during Socrates days or even during promulgation of democracy.
[quote]. If it works between two of us, it may be workable in a bigger group of people. [/quote]
You don't realise that two of us are mortals. So things between us dies with us. We are not in any parliament for the people to read our exchange. That's why I embarked on writing as any book is immortal.
So think more seriously and comeback to me as to how serious you are and how much you want to get involved and take this into the open to involve as many.
But don't waste my time of you are just arguing to satiate your ego because as I told you your inquisitiveness is rather skewed.
[quote]I contend that the idea of democracy is based on a false premise that we are all equal[/quote]
You see . This is precisely called argument for the sake of arguing. You are saying things I never said or meant, and saying you are contending. Quote me where I said for you to contend ?
@in10RjFox [quote] You see . This is precisely called argument for the sake of arguing. You are saying things I never said or meant, and saying you are contending. Quote me where I said for you to contend ?[/quote]
As a matter of fact, you have said NOTHING so far. I am the one trying to draw you out to speak about your conviction on the need for change in so-called democratic societies.
This conversation is not going very far despite my attempts to get you to say something of substance.
Democracy doesn't work because people neither trust each other nor like each other enough to commit themselves to living together as a cohesive, mutually beneficial social unit. This is a living fact. Despite this perception of mine, I am willing to listen to what you have to say. Instead, it is you who seem imposed upon by me to speak your mind.
I am not forcing you to say anything about your vision of a free world, my friend.
What you're forgetting is that most members of one party NEVER want the opponent to be president. And as for the rest of those "polled", most of those don't vote.
If Democrats really didn't want Biden, they'd have supported a prominent Democrat to run against him.
And it's laughable to think that most Republicans don't want Donald Trump when they had many alternatives.
@beckyromero You said: "Do any Republicans favor Biden? And then there are some Democrats who don't, either. So, this is how these "polls" come to a conclusion that is true for almost every general election."
You are quite right, in my opinion. The bottom line is which tortoise get to the finish line first despite election interference from Deep State against the Trump tortoise. You guys must let the reptiles run a fair race.
@justanothername This. Exactly this. I don't love that Biden took so long to stand up to Netanyahu, or that he was less than inclined to fulfill his promise to do away with student loan debt, but the alternative is unthinkable to me.
I get it. But I don't have a choice but to vote for Trump. I'd rather us not get nuked by Russia and China and also I'd like to be able to save money again instead of all my money going towards bills and not being able to really even live, so yeah I'm gonna vote for Trump. If Biden wins again, WW3 will happen and we're all screwed. Anyone who doesn't believe me it's because none of you have been paying any attention to everything going on around you.
@NativePortlander1970 True. The US has been exporting rioting and destruction of property by citizens as freedom and democracy in foreign countries. Why do we put up with violent protest in the US?
@Northwest THANK YOU! The biggest reason third party candidates don't do better in this country is because nobody THINKS they will do better. That's literally it.
@LordShadowfire You don't think money plays a critical role in American politics? You are talking about mega millions, even billions behind the campaign for the White House. No lone wolf has the pull of power to win the masses in America even if he can turn water into wine.
