The problem with Super Tuesday.
It is going to come down to Trump vs Biden; and Americans don't want either one as President.
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in10RjFox · M
It is time to put an end to Republic Democracies and bring about Direct Democracies.
Check out my recently launched book Global Citizens' Manifesto
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sree251 · 41-45, M
@in10RjFox You said: "What ever it is, Lee Kuan Yew is dead and so must be his version."
I am familiar with Singapore and was living there 6 months a year for a while. My sail boat is still docked at a riverine marina in Johor. The Singapore Government run by Lee Hsien Loong, his son, is still the same - no change at all.
As a matter of fact, China's government is patterned on the Singapore model used for incorporating a capitalist element into Chinese socialism.
I am familiar with Singapore and was living there 6 months a year for a while. My sail boat is still docked at a riverine marina in Johor. The Singapore Government run by Lee Hsien Loong, his son, is still the same - no change at all.
As a matter of fact, China's government is patterned on the Singapore model used for incorporating a capitalist element into Chinese socialism.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@in10RjFox Can you show me how to use the quote button? Thanks.
No, I am stating it the right way round. After Deng met with Lee Kuan Yew in 1978, the Chinese Premier sent officials from China to study and learn how to run Chinese cities the Singapore way. Deng chose Singapore's model for incorporating an element of capitalism into China's socialist model. You can research this for yourself. Lee Kuan Yew is highly regarded in China even today by Xi Jinping.
No, I am stating it the right way round. After Deng met with Lee Kuan Yew in 1978, the Chinese Premier sent officials from China to study and learn how to run Chinese cities the Singapore way. Deng chose Singapore's model for incorporating an element of capitalism into China's socialist model. You can research this for yourself. Lee Kuan Yew is highly regarded in China even today by Xi Jinping.
in10RjFox · M
@sree251 Your post about Singapore has nothing to do about capitalism or democracy. It's just city management or town council that they adopt, for Chinese government copies everything from around the world for it's benefit, as while controlling everything it also has responsibility of everything. LKY took control of press and media and adapted the same thing of importing the best from around the world, but not let anything intellectual develop from within.
Free thinking is not permitted in Singapore. Satire is not permitted in Singapore.
I plan to launch the first Satire on Singapore soon, which would be a blow on their face.
Free thinking is not permitted in Singapore. Satire is not permitted in Singapore.
I plan to launch the first Satire on Singapore soon, which would be a blow on their face.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@in10RjFox [quote] Free thinking is not permitted in Singapore. [/quote]
Free thinking is not permitted even in the US. No society allows free thinking because it disrupts the status quo. Donald Trump is a free thinker. He is being attacked for non-conformance with political norms.
Free thinking is not permitted even in the US. No society allows free thinking because it disrupts the status quo. Donald Trump is a free thinker. He is being attacked for non-conformance with political norms.
in10RjFox · M
@sree251 I don't think you have any clue about what I am addressing. When talking about famine in Africa, you are saying even there are people starving for food in USA.
Check the freedom of speech ranking of Singapore.
Elections have become like world cup football with people just favouring the politicians without realising that their own future is at stake.
Check the freedom of speech ranking of Singapore.
Elections have become like world cup football with people just favouring the politicians without realising that their own future is at stake.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@in10RjFox [quote] Elections have become like world cup football with people just favouring the politicians without realising that their own future is at stake. [/quote]
I agree with your observation. This is what democracy leads to. This is the result when each citizen is given a vote to elect a representative in government.
[quote] Check the freedom of speech ranking of Singapore. [/quote]
Singapore is not ranked by International IDEA. Do you know of any other organization that defines and assesses freedom of speech?
[quote] [b]I don't think you have any clue about what I am addressing.[/b] When talking about famine in Africa, you are saying even there are people starving for food i [/quote]
How do you rate the "freedom of expression" in this conversation between you and me? You come across as pretty dictatorial to me. Talking down to each other does not foster freedom of exchange of ideas necessary in a democratic setting. Do you disagree?
I agree with your observation. This is what democracy leads to. This is the result when each citizen is given a vote to elect a representative in government.
[quote] Check the freedom of speech ranking of Singapore. [/quote]
Singapore is not ranked by International IDEA. Do you know of any other organization that defines and assesses freedom of speech?
[quote] [b]I don't think you have any clue about what I am addressing.[/b] When talking about famine in Africa, you are saying even there are people starving for food i [/quote]
How do you rate the "freedom of expression" in this conversation between you and me? You come across as pretty dictatorial to me. Talking down to each other does not foster freedom of exchange of ideas necessary in a democratic setting. Do you disagree?
sree251 · 41-45, M
@in10RjFox [quote] you saying that there is no freedom of speech in US and talking about Trump, came as pretty absurd. [/quote]
Yes, Trump can be pretty wild when he speaks. He is an honest man and says what he thinks whether he is in the privacy of his home or in public. In that regard, he is transparent. This is a quality we all ought to have: say in public what we think in private. He is being punished for that. Is that freedom?
[quote] Just browse for Singapore freedom of speech ranking and free press. [/quote]
Singapore is not ranked by International IDEA which is a very small organization with an annual operating budget of less than Euro 50,000. Besides, it is based in Norway and its concept of freedom is conditioned by western values. The world is a big place with many non-western cultures with values of freedom of their own. World population is 8 billion. Westernized countries have a combined population of less than 600 million. Singapore is Asian with a majority of Chinese people. It's cultural values is not western even though it's political system is somewhat based on the British model.
[quote] In US you can publish any nonsense but in Singapore you cannot. [/quote]
No, you cannot publish any nonsense you want in Singapore. There is no grafiti allowed. No public protests except in approved locations. Singapore is a well-ordered society. Its citizens want it that way.
Yes, Trump can be pretty wild when he speaks. He is an honest man and says what he thinks whether he is in the privacy of his home or in public. In that regard, he is transparent. This is a quality we all ought to have: say in public what we think in private. He is being punished for that. Is that freedom?
[quote] Just browse for Singapore freedom of speech ranking and free press. [/quote]
Singapore is not ranked by International IDEA which is a very small organization with an annual operating budget of less than Euro 50,000. Besides, it is based in Norway and its concept of freedom is conditioned by western values. The world is a big place with many non-western cultures with values of freedom of their own. World population is 8 billion. Westernized countries have a combined population of less than 600 million. Singapore is Asian with a majority of Chinese people. It's cultural values is not western even though it's political system is somewhat based on the British model.
[quote] In US you can publish any nonsense but in Singapore you cannot. [/quote]
No, you cannot publish any nonsense you want in Singapore. There is no grafiti allowed. No public protests except in approved locations. Singapore is a well-ordered society. Its citizens want it that way.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@in10RjFox [quote] 🤣🤣 you have got all your senses skewed. [/quote]
Well, I have engaged you in a conversation to discuss your perception of freedom in society. So, far you have not presented a rational argument that merits serious examination. I have not read your book, eShan. You have a background in software system engineering, and your "soul of democracy" seems to be meant for Singapore.
Why the narrow focus on that island state?
Well, I have engaged you in a conversation to discuss your perception of freedom in society. So, far you have not presented a rational argument that merits serious examination. I have not read your book, eShan. You have a background in software system engineering, and your "soul of democracy" seems to be meant for Singapore.
Why the narrow focus on that island state?
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sree251 · 41-45, M
@in10RjFox You said: "A democracy is a democracy.. is it defined by geography or people?
So because the nation is an island, my focus is narrow.. and your focus is broad."
I was wondering why you singled out Singapore for criticism. So far, you have not stated where you are going with your conviction with regard to democracy as a system of government.
You seem impatient with me. Why don't you lay out your political beliefs? Let's discuss them.
So because the nation is an island, my focus is narrow.. and your focus is broad."
I was wondering why you singled out Singapore for criticism. So far, you have not stated where you are going with your conviction with regard to democracy as a system of government.
You seem impatient with me. Why don't you lay out your political beliefs? Let's discuss them.
in10RjFox · M
@sree251 then why TF I write a book.. and again you started "you said" instead of quoting.
So after writing a book as an author I have to sit down and explain to you why I wrote the book which can come to 450 pages as against 150 pages. Will you go and ask every author in a similar fashion? Ever asked who really wrote the Bible?
Yes, you are on my nerves with your logic as I see you as someone who is intellectually challenged as your questions have no relevance to the subject and never ending, as you have a disability of being unable to grasp the premise of an argument.
And yes, for people like you, the representative form of democracy is most suited as you won't know how to vote on policies.
I write about Singapore because I am a citizen of Singapore and I have the right and responsibility to do so. And I am putting the Singapore democracy to a acid test.
So how much do you know about your democracy? Who are republicans and who are democrats ? What is the change that they bring about when each of them get elected?
So after writing a book as an author I have to sit down and explain to you why I wrote the book which can come to 450 pages as against 150 pages. Will you go and ask every author in a similar fashion? Ever asked who really wrote the Bible?
Yes, you are on my nerves with your logic as I see you as someone who is intellectually challenged as your questions have no relevance to the subject and never ending, as you have a disability of being unable to grasp the premise of an argument.
And yes, for people like you, the representative form of democracy is most suited as you won't know how to vote on policies.
I write about Singapore because I am a citizen of Singapore and I have the right and responsibility to do so. And I am putting the Singapore democracy to a acid test.
So how much do you know about your democracy? Who are republicans and who are democrats ? What is the change that they bring about when each of them get elected?
in10RjFox · M
@sree251 And Since you can't afford $3 and risk buying a book, There is a view sample button, in which I have written a foreword. See if you can grasp the subject within that for free.
Ever asked yourself the difference between a country and a nation ?
[quote]So far, you have not stated where you are going with your conviction with regard to democracy as a system of government.[/quote]
If Singapore being such a small city (not even a state) can secure the status of a Nation, and garner a currency for itself, then why each state in the United States, much larger area and much higher population, secure a currency for itself ? there could have been Californian Dollar , NY Dollar , Dallas Dollar and so on yah ? or would you like a future like that where USD is the central currency and not belonging to any state ?
Ever asked yourself the difference between a country and a nation ?
[quote]So far, you have not stated where you are going with your conviction with regard to democracy as a system of government.[/quote]
If Singapore being such a small city (not even a state) can secure the status of a Nation, and garner a currency for itself, then why each state in the United States, much larger area and much higher population, secure a currency for itself ? there could have been Californian Dollar , NY Dollar , Dallas Dollar and so on yah ? or would you like a future like that where USD is the central currency and not belonging to any state ?
sree251 · 41-45, M
@in10RjFox [quote] Now ask this author why he singled out USA and demanding the same thing what I am asking for Singapore. [/quote]
You seem to be short on words with your post that does not facilitate discussion; especially, when you have not disclosed your political analysis of Singapore's government vis a vis the USA. As such, I have taken the liberty to lift the synopsis of your book, shown below, for comment.
What insight do you have on democracy per se? It's one-man one vote principle is one thing but the government structure based on that principle is another. Your observation of American society is but one many out there gracing the shelves of book stores and public libraries. None of them, to my mind shed light on anything.
[b]In an era where the pillars of democracy tremble under the weight of rising authoritarianism, "Gimme Shelter - Democracy if We Can Keep It" emerges as a crucial beacon of insight and a call to action. This compelling book, steeped in both urgency and intellect, delves deep into the turbulent social and political landscape of today's America, echoing the contrasts of the 1960s – a time marked by significant progress shadowed by profound turmoil.[/b]
You seem to be short on words with your post that does not facilitate discussion; especially, when you have not disclosed your political analysis of Singapore's government vis a vis the USA. As such, I have taken the liberty to lift the synopsis of your book, shown below, for comment.
What insight do you have on democracy per se? It's one-man one vote principle is one thing but the government structure based on that principle is another. Your observation of American society is but one many out there gracing the shelves of book stores and public libraries. None of them, to my mind shed light on anything.
[b]In an era where the pillars of democracy tremble under the weight of rising authoritarianism, "Gimme Shelter - Democracy if We Can Keep It" emerges as a crucial beacon of insight and a call to action. This compelling book, steeped in both urgency and intellect, delves deep into the turbulent social and political landscape of today's America, echoing the contrasts of the 1960s – a time marked by significant progress shadowed by profound turmoil.[/b]
in10RjFox · M
@sree251 [quote]You seem to be short on words with your post that does not facilitate discussion; especially, when you have not disclosed your political analysis of Singapore's government vis a vis the USA. [/quote]
All you know about is Political Analysis, which is post-mortem. But my book is not post-mortem, but analysis of the principles of democracy itself, the foundation on which the constitution is laid. The next layer is the government. That's why I said you just don't understand the premise of any argument, you just want to hear what you want.
[i][b]Did you read about the operating system in the foreword? what did you understand from it?
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The insight about democracy is in the book. You just comment by watching the trailer of the movie. 😀
[quote]None of them, to my mind shed light on anything.[/quote]
Definitely it won't, because you are "listening impaired". You just can't understand anything, but only know to ask questions and even if its answered you will start again with "You said" .. 😀
[b]And now why did you copy paste the description of Gimme Shelter in bold ? [/b]
All you know about is Political Analysis, which is post-mortem. But my book is not post-mortem, but analysis of the principles of democracy itself, the foundation on which the constitution is laid. The next layer is the government. That's why I said you just don't understand the premise of any argument, you just want to hear what you want.
[i][b]Did you read about the operating system in the foreword? what did you understand from it?
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The insight about democracy is in the book. You just comment by watching the trailer of the movie. 😀
[quote]None of them, to my mind shed light on anything.[/quote]
Definitely it won't, because you are "listening impaired". You just can't understand anything, but only know to ask questions and even if its answered you will start again with "You said" .. 😀
[b]And now why did you copy paste the description of Gimme Shelter in bold ? [/b]
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