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Musk Responds to $354 Million Ruling in Trump’s Civil Fraud Case With One Simple Question

“Given that there were no victims with losses, who is supposed to receive the money?”
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DUUUDE!!! I've explained this to you multiple times!!!

Trump has NY state business licenses and he violated their terms. Think of them as being like drivers licenses. If you speed, you may get fined and your license may get suspended. Even if there's no "victim" from your speeding, you STILL may get fined and be suspended!

And yeah, just like speeding, the state can receive the fines.

I've explained this to you multiple times, but it never seems to penetrate that thick skull of yours😂🤣😂🤣
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues |Yup, borrowed money, repaid it on time, with interest, and committed the henious crime of living up to obligations, which somehow is not permitted in new york
Strictgram · 70-79, C
@ElwoodBlues Trump did not violate any business license. He borrowed money and paid it back with interest. No one close to being a victim. Only a marxist fool can't accept the facts.
@sunsporter1649 And falsified business records. Repeatedly. You somehow forgot to mention that, even though it's the core of the trial.

Only a fascist fool can't accept the facts.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues Yup, borrowed money, repaid it on time, with interest, and committed the henious crime of living up to obligations, which somehow is not permitted in new york.
@sunsporter1649 And falsified business records. Repeatedly. You somehow forgot to mention that, even though it's the core of the trial.

Only a fascist fool can't accept the facts.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues Yup, borrowed money, repaid it on time, with interest, and committed the henious crime of living up to obligations, which somehow is not permitted in new york
@sunsporter1649 And falsified business records. Repeatedly. You somehow forgot to mention that, even though it's the core of the trial. See NY Penal Law § 170.10 & 175.10: Falsifying Business Records in the First Degree.

Also see New York Executive Law EXC § 63(12) regarding persons who "engage in repeated fraudulent or illegal acts or otherwise demonstrate persistent fraud or illegality in the carrying on, conducting or transaction of business, ..."

Only a fascist fool can't accept the facts.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues So where are the court cases for those supposed infractions?
@sunsporter1649 finally wonders
where are the court cases
I've posted excerpts and pointed you to the details, and you obstinately refuse to read any of it, LOL!!!

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues So no court cases, eh.
@sunsporter1649 DEAD WRONG!!!

I'll give you a little hint: the court case involved 40 witnesses, 43 days of evidence presentation, and spanned ten weeks. I've posted excerpts and pointed you to the details, and you obstinately refuse to read any of it, LOL!!!

Trump falsified business records involving:
Trump Tower triplex apartment
40 Wall St
Vornado Realty Trust
Trump Park Ave
Seven Springs
Briarcliffe
Mar-a-Lago
Trump National Golf Club LA
Aberdeen Golf Course

Trump is thus required by law to disgorge profits made from these falsifications.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues One case, where are the others? By your reconing, somebody driving a red Ferrari gets pulled over, and the officer writes $3555,000,000 in tickets due to that person driving a red Ferrari must have been speeding sometime in the past?
@sunsporter1649 It's possible to accumulate multiple traffic tickets before going to court. Sometimes the court may group all of a person's violations together for whatever reason.

The court case involved 40 witnesses, 43 days of evidence presentation, and spanned ten weeks. I've posted excerpts and pointed you to the details, and you obstinately refuse to read any of it, LOL!!!

Trump falsified business records involving:
Trump Tower triplex apartment
40 Wall St
Vornado Realty Trust
Trump Park Ave
Seven Springs
Briarcliffe
Mar-a-Lago
Trump National Golf Club LA
Aberdeen Golf Course

Trump is thus required by law to disgorge profits made from these falsifications.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues So, no traffic tickets, just a $355,000,000 fine for one violation because of driving a red Ferrari? C'mon man, who you kidding?
@sunsporter1649 Why do you keep repeating that "one violation" lie???

Trump falsified business records involving:
Trump Tower triplex apartment
40 Wall St
Vornado Realty Trust
Trump Park Ave
Seven Springs
Briarcliffe
Mar-a-Lago
Trump National Golf Club LA
Aberdeen Golf Course

Trump is thus required by law to disgorge profits made from these falsifications.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues So, some left-wing nut-job marxist judge is suddenly a real estate expert in california, florida, and north carolina and can therefore pass judgement greater that the IRS?
@sunsporter1649 Nope. Ijit question from an ijit. That's why they have expert witnesses give sworn testimony. You would appear a little less idiotic if you bothered to read what I post.

Trump falsified business records involving:
Trump Tower triplex apartment
40 Wall St
Vornado Realty Trust
Trump Park Ave
Seven Springs
Briarcliffe
Mar-a-Lago
Trump National Golf Club LA
Aberdeen Golf Course

Trump is thus required by law to disgorge profits made from these falsifications.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues Having bought and sold multiple propertys in Florida, I know there are at least 4 different values for said propertys. Which one is correct, and which others are criminal activities?
@sunsporter1649 @sunsporter1649 Changing the subject, are we? That's the way sunstroke admits he has lost the debate, LOL!!!

Trump falsified business records involving:
Trump Tower triplex apartment
40 Wall St
Vornado Realty Trust
Trump Park Ave
Seven Springs
Briarcliffe
Mar-a-Lago
Trump National Golf Club LA
Aberdeen Golf Course

Trump is thus required by law to disgorge profits made from these falsifications.

For complete details, see
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2024/02/Judge-Engoron-ruling-in-Trump-New-York-civil-fraud-case.pdf
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues Well, if the defendant is not being prosecuted over a dispute on property values to acquire a loan, could there possibilty be another reason?
@sunsporter1649 The trial was about falsification of business records. That's a violation of New York Executive Law EXC § 63(12), which has been on the books since the 1960s.

Trump falsified business records involving:
Trump Tower triplex apartment
40 Wall St
Vornado Realty Trust
Trump Park Ave
Seven Springs
Briarcliffe
Mar-a-Lago
Trump National Golf Club LA
Aberdeen Golf Course

Trump is thus required by law to disgorge profits made from these falsifications.

For complete details, see
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2024/02/Judge-Engoron-ruling-in-Trump-New-York-civil-fraud-case.pdf
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues Falsification of business records to acquire a loan, using property as collateral, you forgot to mention
@sunsporter1649 Sneakily trying to change the subject from actions to motives, LOL!!! Trump's MOTIVES for falsification are irrelevant. The FACT of the falsification is a crime.

It's a violation of New York Executive Law EXC § 63(12), which has been on the books since the 1960s.

Trump falsified business records involving:
Trump Tower triplex apartment
40 Wall St
Vornado Realty Trust
Trump Park Ave
Seven Springs
Briarcliffe
Mar-a-Lago
Trump National Golf Club LA
Aberdeen Golf Course

Trump is thus required by law to disgorge profits made from these falsifications.

For complete details, see
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2024/02/Judge-Engoron-ruling-in-Trump-New-York-civil-fraud-case.pdf
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues And just who determines the value of said property that is allegedly misvalued in the civil suit?
@sunsporter1649 Sneakily trying to change the subject again!! The FACT of the falsification is a crime.

It's a violation of New York Executive Law EXC § 63(12), which has been on the books since the 1960s.

Trump falsified business records involving:
Trump Tower triplex apartment
40 Wall St
Vornado Realty Trust
Trump Park Ave
Seven Springs
Briarcliffe
Mar-a-Lago
Trump National Golf Club LA
Aberdeen Golf Course

Trump is thus required by law to disgorge profits made from these falsifications.

For complete details, see
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2024/02/Judge-Engoron-ruling-in-Trump-New-York-civil-fraud-case.pdf