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No state solution: Would dissolution of Israel bring peace?

This suggestion is prompted by John Lennon's song "Imagine" about a world with no countries. To be precise, a world with no nation states. Americans ought to take the lead and initiate the dissolution of the USA in the same fashion as the ending of the Soviet Union.

People, of various different cultures, have been living naturally together among each other until their subjugation by divisive ideological power groups through the formation of governments. Power groupings are divisive.

Governments are corporations run by elites to control citizens for the achievement of nefarious agendas. Business enterprises are also corporations run by elites to gain profit at the expense of workers and minority shareholders.

Humanity are people. Governments are not, and they possess people the way the mind, when driven by rage, possess the body and commit it to kill other human bodies.

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LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

Oh, sure. Let's just dissolve Israel. And all those Israelis who have nowhere to go? Fuck them. They can go live in the woods, or kill themselves or whatever, because they don't have a right to exist.

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helenS · 36-40, F

@LordShadowfire Exactly. Dissolving Israel is the easiest way to make torturing and killing all Jews in Palestine feasible.
It will be really fun, and the friends of the Palestinian people all over the world will have a field day.

sree251 · 41-45, M

@LordShadowfire Jews live very well in America, not to mention western Europe including Germany, the so-called Jewish hell-hole. I'll bet Jews feel safer in Berlin than in Tel Aviv.

LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

@sree251 And here we go. If I give you another 5 minutes, you'll start defending literal Nazis, won't you?

sree251 · 41-45, M

@LordShadowfire I don't indulge in propaganda past or present. Let's debate facts as we find them in real time, not stories of days gone by.

helenS · 36-40, F

@LordShadowfire Literal Nazis were best friends with the Arab leaders of the time, of course.

LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

@sree251 Oh, you want to debate facts? How about the fact that you're sitting there defending the actions of literal terrorists while painting Israel as the ultimate villains of the piece? How about that fact?

helenS · 36-40, F

@LordShadowfire In Gaza city 65% of all buildings are damaged or fully destroyed.
Yes, torturing and killing Jews was much more fun in the past.
There's a lot of work to be done in the South of Gaza though. 👍🏽

#FuckGaza

LeopoldBloom · M

@sree251 Why not move all of the Palestinians to the various Arab countries? Problem solved.

helenS · 36-40, F

@LeopoldBloom Why would Arab countries admit them citizenship? They are much more useful as "Palestinian refugees".

sree251 · 41-45, M

@LordShadowfire Israel is a British colonial mistake that needs to be erased in order to free the people from conflict. The Brits are the terrorists. So are we Americans.

sree251 · 41-45, M

@LordShadowfire You said: "Oh, you want to debate facts? How about the fact that you're sitting there defending the actions of literal terrorists while painting Israel as the ultimate villains of the piece? How about that fact?"

I am proposing a world without nation states. Focus, man! No Israel. No Palestine. No USA. No China. No Russia. No Jews. No anti- anyone. When the self does not exist, there is no one to hate.

sree251 · 41-45, M

@LordShadowfire You said: "Oh, sure. Let's just dissolve Israel. And all those Israelis who have nowhere to go? Fuck them. They can go live in the woods, or kill themselves or whatever, because they don't have a right to exist."

What Israelis? Jews are facts. Israelis are non-facts. Why do Jews want to be Israelis for? Isn't it better for Jews to be Americans? Why do Jews want to be identified as Israelis for? Declasse'

LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

@sree251 Okay, so we've established that you are just a little shithead, and there's no point in continuing discussion with you. Great.

sree251 · 41-45, M

@LordShadowfire You said: "Okay, so we've established that you are just a little shithead, and there's no point in continuing discussion with you. Great."

I guess I must have got you where it hurts. I didn't mean to do that. You must be an Israeli. To me, a Jew is an American because I grew up with them living in New York. All the Jews I know view being an Israeli is nuts. It is like being a white American being a Bible thumping Christian fundamentalist. So, I think there is a lot of cult stuff going on with the Zionist agenda. Why US politicians going along with this cult madness is beyond me.

LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

@sree251 You didn't hurt me in the slightest. You've just made it quite clear you don't think the Jews should get their ancestral homeland.

sree251 · 41-45, M

@LordShadowfire What ancestral homeland? This is the year 2023. We are in the digital age, my friend. The only homeland is going to be the metaverse.

LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

@sree251 Yes, you've made it quite clear you don't want them to have it back.

sree251 · 41-45, M

@LordShadowfire We are still living in the dark ages. A homeland promised by God? And you support that. Are you nuts?

LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

@sree251 I didn't say shit about believing in God. I said they should have their ancestral homeland. Why are you so against it? What do you have against them?

sree251 · 41-45, M

@LordShadowfire I want an ancestral homeland too. Grow up, man. We can't just walk all over other people, kick their asses out and strut.

LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

@sree251 Okay. You've made it quite clear you want to take their land away from them. You've made it painfully clear. I'll ask again, what the fuck do you have against them?

sree251 · 41-45, M

@LordShadowfire You said: "You've made it quite clear you want to take their land away from them."

First of all, it is not their land. Seizing other people's properties by force is uncivilized. Get this into your head. If you want a piece of real estate in Tokyo or Manhattan, buy it at the market price if there is a willing seller. World wars have been fought and millions killed when land had been taken by force. We even bombed the Japanese to a standstill when they tried it in WW2.

I am proposing the solution of dissolution of Israel. It is stolen property. I am sure the Jewish community can well afford to pay for real estate anywhere on the Mediterranean. There will be willing sellers.

DDaverde · 61-69, M

@sree251 it was an arid desert
The Jews just about buiilt everything !
If they were not there it would be a complete
Shithole!!! Why do you nit whits hate Israel
So much have you already forgotten
They where attacked October 7th
Women children had their heads cut off .?
For existing ?? The whole civilized world
Stood behind them to build their own
Country after WW2..

LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

@sree251

First of all, it is not their land.

Oh, really? I didn't know the Palestinians were there six fucking thousand years ago.

Seizing other people's properties by force is uncivilized.

And yet you advocate for it.

sree251 · 41-45, M

@DDaverde You said: "it was an arid desert
The Jews just about buiilt everything !"

The spiders build everything in my shithole of a house too. Those insects don't pay the property taxes. I do. People have rights to their shitholes. Jews need to stay out of other people's shitholes.

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