@Diotrephes i think if you look in the right archives, every president between George Washington and Joe Biden has a racist/sexist/religiously offensive documument.
Biden was once caught on a hot mic impersonating a hindu convenience store owner, i believe.
@SusanInFlorida[quote] i think if you look in the right archives, every president between George Washington and Joe Biden has a racist/sexist/religiously offensive documument.
Biden was once caught on a hot mic impersonating a hindu convenience store owner, i believe.[/quote]
Of course they were, and are, all racists like we all are. After all, we are Americans and America is based on racism. But the problem with FDR was that he was even more racist than the foreign enemies he was fighting. Black people had fought in every war since the Revolutionary War. During WWI over 200,000 were sent to Europe but the White Supremacists use them as laborers until one of their commanders hooked them up with the French. https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/1429624/african-american-troops-fought-to-fight-in-world-war-i/
During WWII the propaganda was how America was fighting to make the world safe for democracy but that BS excluded Black citizens. FDR could have change that but he was too much of a Jim Crow baby. Truman had far more integrity although he had dabbled with joining the KKK decades before.
As for Biden, he was a racist and still is but he has a far more integrated staff than any previous president. https://whorulesamerica.ucsc.edu/diversity/diversity_in_presidential_cabinets.html
@Diotrephes i think america - the way the founding fathers conceived of it - puts wealth accumlation at the forefront. not racism. only propertied men could vote. If you were landless, a woman, or an indentured servant, fuggedaboutit.
the racism part didn't really get rolling until waves of foreigners started arriving - irish, italians, chinese labor for the transcontinental railway, hispanic migrants. Black americans always got their share of abuse, even after embracing capitalism and christianity.
Woodrow Wilson (1913-21): Woodrow Wilson led the country through World War I and was pivotal in the creation of the League of Nations, the foundation to today’s United Nations.
Because I really only know what history States about these presidents. Lincoln only freed the slaves because the South was getting rich. He himself was a slave owner....... Truman didn't take no crap, but who was he ......... Kennedy was assassinated before he really had a chance to make history .........
Of those I know Barack Obama it would be my favorite. Had it not been the Republicans opposing him at his every move and actually stopping what he tried to put in place he would have accomplished more. McConnell said when he was elected he wasn't going to support Obama and nothing and blocked everything everything Obama tried to do. And Obama was a people's president. He didn't care who you were, whether you like him or not, he tried. And despite of the Republicans actions he still accomplished a few things and employment was way down when Trump took office.
@Northwest Lincoln wrote if I could save the union without freeing any slaves I would do it. In his letter to Horace Greeley. Why did he want to save the union the union was going down in the South was getting rich. https://youtu.be/yxQJNKWoGaw?feature=shared
CIVIL WAR - the North had less use for slaves than the South - they couldn't grow tobacco and cotton and such for a lot of heat is needed land have free labor of slaves to prosper off of - most, not all northerners actually work - industrial part of the Union. They purchased and manufactured products from the south. The South was rich from slavery.
@Northwest **I didn't say that President Kennedy didn't do anything**.... I said he was assassinated before he really I used the term **really** had a chance to make history. Apparently you don't understand what that sentence means. President Kennedy would have made so many, many accomplishments that would probably make the world stand back in awe. He was around at a time when it was easy.
@SDavis [quote]Lincoln wrote [b][i][u]if I could save the union without freeing any slaves I would do it.[/u][/i][/b] In his letter to Horace Greeley. Why did he want to save the union the union was going down in the South was getting rich. [/quote]
This is NOT all he said. Taking a fragment from a quote? that's rich. This is what Lincoln stated, In August 1862:
[b][i][u]"If I could save the union without freeing any slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that."[/u][/i][/b]
The context is also important, this was part of a discussion about his responsibility as a President, to protect the union. In fact, when he made that statement, he had concluded that the Union is better served by freeing slaves. When that statement was made, Lincoln had already drafted the emancipation proclamation.
But more specifically, I was responding to this claim:
[quote]He himself was a slave owner[/quote]
100% wrong.
As to your other "historical" musings, you really have no clue, do you?
[quote]**I didn't say that President Kennedy didn't do anything**.... I said he was assassinated before he really I used the term **really** had a chance to make history. Apparently you don't understand what that sentence means. President Kennedy would have made so many, many accomplishments that would probably make the world stand back in awe. He was around at a time when it was easy.[/quote]
Here's what you said:
[quote]Kennedy was assassinated before he really had a chance to make history ......... [/quote]
[i][b]Apparently you don't understand what that sentence means. [/b][/i]
Apparently facts, history and grammar are not really your strongest suits. The addition of "Really", makes absolutely no difference, considering my response, because he [b][i][u]REALLY[/u][/i][/b] did make history, specifically what I listed:
JFK's legacy: Peace Corps, Man walks on the moon, preventing nuclear holocaust. I'd say he made more history than most US presidents, in the 2 years and 10 months he was in office.
Donald J. Trump was and still is my favorite U.S. President. When I heard his campaign speech for the very first time in 2015, I was moved to tears. I felt some of the same things I feel when I hear taps, and see the American flag treated with reverence.
At a time when our nation and our values were crumbling, and under constant attack this man came and offered us hope for restoration.
I'm not American but for me: * Obama was an amazing orator, deeply intelligent with genuine values. Hamstrung in his presidency. * Franklin D Roosevelt from what I understand nearly headed USA into being a balanced society where the American dream could be possible for everyone. Sadly capitalism swallowed democracy whole after this. * Lincoln - again great orator, stood for something important.
@Abstraction It is definitely all about the money, here. Doctors will close their practices to Medicare patients and refuse to accept any more of them, for example, because they don't like the way Medicare only pays a fraction of what the doctors want to charge. Most Americans with Medicare need to have a second insurance plan. Some Medicare patients can't even find a doctor who will take them on.
Big Pharma is out of control. They spend a huge amount of money on television commercials advertising their drugs, which may or may not be safe. They have famously overcharged diabetics who need insulin every day, so that those people regularly take trips up the Canada, if they can, to buy cheap insulin. Fortunately, the government does take an interest in that, and is trying to get the Big Pharma Monster under control.
@4meAndyou When I was doing my development studies I worked out that if a country could balance three things they were likely to be prosperous with strong economy, the poor would be ok, free speech would happen... * [u]The markets[/u]. (ie, corporates, companies, small business, etc). Strong markets is good economy. But if they dominate, they don't pay their way and you get inequality - which ironically hurts the economy too. Government serves the corporates. * [u]The government.[/u] Government that listens to the people and enables strong economy is great - balance of human rights and everyone wins together. If it dominates, human rights are eroded. Freedoms disappear and the economy suffers. * [u]Civil society[/u]. (ie, people had a say.) I don't recall finding any country where the will of the people was TOO much.
@Abstraction That's amazing, and obvious now that I read what you've written. Human rights and freedom and the economy are linked...dominant markets hurt the economy.
Washington for refusing to becime a king. Lincoln for work during Civil War. Grover Cleveland for rejecting the Hawaiian Kingdom overthrow by rogue US forces (McKinley went back on this. 🙄). Roosevelt for Depression and WWII policies. Teddy R. for National Park push.
Kennedy-Johnson for Civil Rights Legisl. support. Carter for being a decent human being.
Presidents are situational.. The right man for the right time is the key. FDR was the man for his time, as was Eisenhower, for a post war growth. Kennedy was the man to envision and motivate America to the Moon..Clintom , flawed as he was, understood the importance of the economy.. And Obama guided working Americans out of a recession and gave Black America a vision of possibilities. But each president is only one man. And lately it seems they swim against the tide..😷
My favorite ex-President is Jimmy Carter for Habitat for Humanity among other great works. Unfortunately, not a successful President. He had a hard getting the big things he wanted done.
Lincoln and FDR are tied for favorite President. Incredibly smart, savvy, able to get stuff done during incredibly tough periods in American history.
It would have to be Bush 43 because he tore our economy up really bad, really thrashed it but he kept a smile on. I attribute it to the massive use of Coke during his fraternity days..
