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DunningKruger · 61-69, M
A lot of Americans at the time believed that we should have allied with the Germans against the Soviet Union. There was a lot of support for the ideals of the Nazi party in the U.S., which isn't surprising when you realize that Hitler got a lot of his ideas from the U.S. in the first place, people like Henry Ford, who was radically antisemitic, and our racist segregationist policies.
We have not come so far away from that.
We have not come so far away from that.
Convivial · 26-30, F
@DunningKruger and IBM supplied the punch card technology that allowed the camps to function, and GM owned opel that supplied the German army with their trucks... The list goes on... And we haven't even mentioned eugenics and how they influenced Hitler's thinking on racial purity
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Convivial Hitler's actions on racial purity was probably the biggest thing that showed how the 19C philosophy of eugenics - flawed from the start and never a science - could be so easily warped into such evil.
Eugenics was invented by a mid-19C English philosopher, whose name I forget unfortunately, not for racist reasons as such but with the idea of selective breeding for people as perfect as it might give. It was eagerly seen by many in both the UK and the USA as a possible answer to congenital diseases with which contemporary medicine, long-term care and society could not cope.
I doubt "racial purity" was considered at the time simply because inter-racial relationships were rare and often frowned upon anyway; by society at large, not supposedly-scientific reasoning. Though such relationships may well have been thought "non-eugenic" anyway.
The theory was that if only fully-healthy stock bred, eventually we'd have a fully-healthy society. That was bad enough, and absurd enough though based on still-weak understanding of genetics; but it was not long before that idealism started to develop into far darker "isms".
The Nazis took it further, especially in occupied Norway. One awful result was that not only were the Norwegian women involved treated badly by their own society (for a start, they had been guilty of liaisons with the enemy) , but many of the Scando-Germanic children were treated even worse; long after the War.
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Sadly, an eerie echo has emerged in recent years, with the rise in DNA testing firms "proving" your distant ancestry. It does not do anything of the sort of course, especially for those (Including me) of nominally white European origins, but who are among the most mongrel people on Earth if you could trace back more than a millennium or so. Your DNA merely shows regional or ethnic components from your ancestral lineage. It is not real geneology.
So such a DNA test is meaningless enough to be harmless, but it has been latched onto by some of the more extreme racists to demonstrate their imagined purity. It is a gamble though, with their test fee as the stake.
If the result does match their childish hopes, as it may do, they are cock-a-hoop.
If it doesn't... well, it's obviously a flawed test, contaminated, badly-done, or the like. Nothing to do with familial and biological history. Let alone understanding the halves rule for each succeeding generation, and the 1/2 scale is a powerful scale indeed.
Eugenics was invented by a mid-19C English philosopher, whose name I forget unfortunately, not for racist reasons as such but with the idea of selective breeding for people as perfect as it might give. It was eagerly seen by many in both the UK and the USA as a possible answer to congenital diseases with which contemporary medicine, long-term care and society could not cope.
I doubt "racial purity" was considered at the time simply because inter-racial relationships were rare and often frowned upon anyway; by society at large, not supposedly-scientific reasoning. Though such relationships may well have been thought "non-eugenic" anyway.
The theory was that if only fully-healthy stock bred, eventually we'd have a fully-healthy society. That was bad enough, and absurd enough though based on still-weak understanding of genetics; but it was not long before that idealism started to develop into far darker "isms".
The Nazis took it further, especially in occupied Norway. One awful result was that not only were the Norwegian women involved treated badly by their own society (for a start, they had been guilty of liaisons with the enemy) , but many of the Scando-Germanic children were treated even worse; long after the War.
''''''
Sadly, an eerie echo has emerged in recent years, with the rise in DNA testing firms "proving" your distant ancestry. It does not do anything of the sort of course, especially for those (Including me) of nominally white European origins, but who are among the most mongrel people on Earth if you could trace back more than a millennium or so. Your DNA merely shows regional or ethnic components from your ancestral lineage. It is not real geneology.
So such a DNA test is meaningless enough to be harmless, but it has been latched onto by some of the more extreme racists to demonstrate their imagined purity. It is a gamble though, with their test fee as the stake.
If the result does match their childish hopes, as it may do, they are cock-a-hoop.
If it doesn't... well, it's obviously a flawed test, contaminated, badly-done, or the like. Nothing to do with familial and biological history. Let alone understanding the halves rule for each succeeding generation, and the 1/2 scale is a powerful scale indeed.
ilikeitlikethat23 · 61-69, M
Sounds and looks like a trump rally, that is f'd up.
Quimliqer · 70-79, M
Very near miss!!
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Yeah... A lot of Americans dont want to hear about this... Of course, it could never happen again...😷
cloudgirl1 · 31-35, F