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JudgeHolden · 100+, M
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I'm starting to think anyone with pro-Palestine leanings should just wear a pin that says "I Condemn Hamas" so the conversation can move past the baby-brained stage...
Bumbles · 51-55, M
@SW-User If only to explain, not to convince, condemning Hamas is necessary, but opposing Israel taking necessary steps to eliminate Hamas is insufficient (for us).
JSul3 · 70-79
JERUSALEM (AP) — In Israel’s call for the evacuation of half of Gaza’s population, many Palestinians fear a repeat of the most traumatic event in their tortured history, their mass exodus from what is now Israel during the 1948 war surrounding its creation.

Palestinians refer to it as the Nakba, or “catastrophe.” An estimated 700,000 Palestinians, a majority of the prewar population, fled or were expelled from what is now Israel in the months before and during the war, in which Jewish fighters fended off an attack by several Arab states.

The Palestinians packed their belongings, piling into cars, trucks and donkey carts. Many locked their doors and took their keys with them, expecting to return when the war ended.

Seventy-five years later, they have not been allowed back. Emptied towns were renamed, villages were demolished, homes reclaimed by forests in Israeli nature reserves.

Israel refused to allow the Palestinians to return, because it would threaten the Jewish majority within the country’s borders. So the refugees and their descendants, who now number nearly 6 million, settled in camps in the West Bank, Lebanon, Syria and Jordan. Those camps eventually grew into built-up neighborhoods.

In Gaza, the vast majority of the population are Palestinian refugees, many of whose relatives fled from the same areas that Hamas attacked last weekend.

The Palestinians insist they have the right to return, something Israel still adamantly rejects. Their fate was among the thorniest issues in the peace process, which ground to a halt more than a decade ago.

Now, Palestinians fear the most painful moment from their history is repeating itself.

Let me be clear....Hamas is radical Sunni terrorists. They are just like ISIS and Al Queda and Hezbollah. They need to be eradicated, but you simply cannot lay waste to Gaza and kill or maim innocent Palestinians.
I do not support Netanyahu or Hamas....both are criminal.
sascha · F
Hamas entered Israel and murdered their civilians. Murder is deliberately ending another person's life.

Hamas planned their war crime in advance. They are the government in Gaza.

What is Israel expected to do? Not retaliate when at least 1,200 people in Israel have been murdered in their homes, on the street, at a festival, and so on?

These retaliatory strikes won't achieve much in the long run, except blood for blood. Many Palestinians believe in this method for dealing with their perceived grievances, and in a worse manner. Taking a knife, or a gun, and using it to commit the unspeakable acts of horror in Israel is worse. It takes much less to commit an airstrike to the air when this has happened to your people.

The only way Hamas will be dismantled is if Israel occupies Gaza, and gets rid of certain places, and people, in Iran.

I think those in the West should stop the moral grandstanding and constant virtue signalling. Be like Russia, and tolerate the bloodshed. Watch humanity unfold, watch the pain, the anguish, the torment...and let people be human where they have earned the right to be.

No one has the right to subject Israel to this continued barrage of misplaced morality.
sascha · F
@Burnley123 Do you think Hamas should target someone else? Would it be acceptable if they weren't targeting civilians?

What about the methods they employ? Do you think this is normal? Would it be acceptable for them to behead non civilians?

Is this how you would respond to an adversary? Beheading their babies, burning them, or shooting them? Has it really come to this?

"Condemn"...

Very mild word to use for such atrocious and personal crimes.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@sascha The beheading of babies is a claim made by a politician that has gone viral
The last I heard, the Israeli military refused to confirm its truth.

You've also not dealt with My points I raised. You are clearly fine with western people having an opinion and welcome that, as long as it is uncritical.

Do you condemn the IDF using white phosphorus gas on Gaza?

It's a mild word for such tactics but I'll take that.
sascha · F
@Burnley123 Much to my continued horror, it is true. It is not a subject I want to delve into, as I find reading such material to be traumatic. Over the past few days, I have only been following Iran-Israel tensions. But, friends and family have been talking about it, and have mentioned sources. I am aware there are some articles from legitimate sources, showing some very horrible blurred images of very young children. I mention it because it is important that people know the depravity of Hamas, and understand the current trauma in Israel.

Maybe I'll respond to the rest of your comment later. Child murder makes me feel...bothered.

Before you say this is what Israel is doing in Gaza, understand that it is not deliberate. And they aren't going there and committing these acts in the aforementioned ways. All three ways.
RedBaron · M
Condemn away, but the best case to be made is for Israel and the IDF to wipe Hamas off the face of the earth.
RedBaron · M
@Burnley123 Unfortunately, war can have unwanted consequences. But Hamas has instigated a war.
RedBaron · M
@Burnley123 This pretty well sums it up.

https://nypost.com/2023/10/14/the-ongoing-fight-in-the-middle-east-is-your-fight-too-as-israel-prepares-for-invasion/
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@RedBaron It conflates support for Palestine with anti-Semitism in a million crude ways. At one point it even says critics want a 'second holocaust.'

This is a bad faith argument and I'm done here.
cerealguy · 26-30, M
The fact that we need arguments shows how evil people have become
[quote] And about that terrorist attack on Israel [/quote]

Pro Palestine people be like:

Burnley123 · 41-45, M
Drummer · M
Trending now on Twitter (X)

#NetanyahuLetItHappen
#NetanyahuMustGoNow
#NetanyahuWarCriminal
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Drummer I agree with two and three

 
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