Excellent arguments as to why we should condemn Israeli actions in Gaza
in a hostile media environment. James Schneider is excellent.
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sascha · F
Hamas entered Israel and murdered their civilians. Murder is deliberately ending another person's life.
Hamas planned their war crime in advance. They are the government in Gaza.
What is Israel expected to do? Not retaliate when at least 1,200 people in Israel have been murdered in their homes, on the street, at a festival, and so on?
These retaliatory strikes won't achieve much in the long run, except blood for blood. Many Palestinians believe in this method for dealing with their perceived grievances, and in a worse manner. Taking a knife, or a gun, and using it to commit the unspeakable acts of horror in Israel is worse. It takes much less to commit an airstrike to the air when this has happened to your people.
The only way Hamas will be dismantled is if Israel occupies Gaza, and gets rid of certain places, and people, in Iran.
I think those in the West should stop the moral grandstanding and constant virtue signalling. Be like Russia, and tolerate the bloodshed. Watch humanity unfold, watch the pain, the anguish, the torment...and let people be human where they have earned the right to be.
No one has the right to subject Israel to this continued barrage of misplaced morality.
Hamas planned their war crime in advance. They are the government in Gaza.
What is Israel expected to do? Not retaliate when at least 1,200 people in Israel have been murdered in their homes, on the street, at a festival, and so on?
These retaliatory strikes won't achieve much in the long run, except blood for blood. Many Palestinians believe in this method for dealing with their perceived grievances, and in a worse manner. Taking a knife, or a gun, and using it to commit the unspeakable acts of horror in Israel is worse. It takes much less to commit an airstrike to the air when this has happened to your people.
The only way Hamas will be dismantled is if Israel occupies Gaza, and gets rid of certain places, and people, in Iran.
I think those in the West should stop the moral grandstanding and constant virtue signalling. Be like Russia, and tolerate the bloodshed. Watch humanity unfold, watch the pain, the anguish, the torment...and let people be human where they have earned the right to be.
No one has the right to subject Israel to this continued barrage of misplaced morality.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@sascha Yet you are fine with it when westerners support Israel. The IDF has weapons made in my own country as well as from elsewhere. In addition, the government of Israel seeks and gets both financial and diplomatic support from other nations
Clearly you are fine with western involvement, as long as it remains uncritical.
I have and will continue to condemn Hamas for targeting civilians. I will likewise condemn the IDF for the even greater violence that they are enacting and will continue to enact
Clearly you are fine with western involvement, as long as it remains uncritical.
I have and will continue to condemn Hamas for targeting civilians. I will likewise condemn the IDF for the even greater violence that they are enacting and will continue to enact
sascha · F
@Burnley123 Do you think Hamas should target someone else? Would it be acceptable if they weren't targeting civilians?
What about the methods they employ? Do you think this is normal? Would it be acceptable for them to behead non civilians?
Is this how you would respond to an adversary? Beheading their babies, burning them, or shooting them? Has it really come to this?
"Condemn"...
Very mild word to use for such atrocious and personal crimes.
What about the methods they employ? Do you think this is normal? Would it be acceptable for them to behead non civilians?
Is this how you would respond to an adversary? Beheading their babies, burning them, or shooting them? Has it really come to this?
"Condemn"...
Very mild word to use for such atrocious and personal crimes.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@sascha The beheading of babies is a claim made by a politician that has gone viral
The last I heard, the Israeli military refused to confirm its truth.
You've also not dealt with My points I raised. You are clearly fine with western people having an opinion and welcome that, as long as it is uncritical.
Do you condemn the IDF using white phosphorus gas on Gaza?
It's a mild word for such tactics but I'll take that.
The last I heard, the Israeli military refused to confirm its truth.
You've also not dealt with My points I raised. You are clearly fine with western people having an opinion and welcome that, as long as it is uncritical.
Do you condemn the IDF using white phosphorus gas on Gaza?
It's a mild word for such tactics but I'll take that.
sascha · F
@Burnley123 Much to my continued horror, it is true. It is not a subject I want to delve into, as I find reading such material to be traumatic. Over the past few days, I have only been following Iran-Israel tensions. But, friends and family have been talking about it, and have mentioned sources. I am aware there are some articles from legitimate sources, showing some very horrible blurred images of very young children. I mention it because it is important that people know the depravity of Hamas, and understand the current trauma in Israel.
Maybe I'll respond to the rest of your comment later. Child murder makes me feel...bothered.
Before you say this is what Israel is doing in Gaza, understand that it is not deliberate. And they aren't going there and committing these acts in the aforementioned ways. All three ways.
Maybe I'll respond to the rest of your comment later. Child murder makes me feel...bothered.
Before you say this is what Israel is doing in Gaza, understand that it is not deliberate. And they aren't going there and committing these acts in the aforementioned ways. All three ways.