I'm curious to hear what trans people and allies think of trans women in women sports.

To me this seems like an area where we really do have to differentiate between a biological woman and a trans woman in the name of fair competition.

What do you think?
Is there any science which would disconfirm this position?

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SatyrService · M

did you see the southpark episode? the "strong woman contest"?
it takes this on.
from both sides.. when the boys have GIRLS show up at their "game Club"
the results are interesting

BohemianBoo · M

@SatyrService That episode is a perfect example of a problem that South Park always had. They don't care about accuracy, they just want to make fun of everyone, even if they have to lie to do so.

SatyrService · M

@BohemianBoo i would beg to differ
they do not lie,, so much as Exaggerate
it is not hate
it is satire, they make fun of both sides of this and many other arguments,.,.
satire cannot BE accurate, then it is only reportage
they rarely take only one side of an argument
and use Reducto ad absurdem to expose hypocracy

BohemianBoo · M

@SatyrService In that episode, they basically said men can compete against women in professional sports, simply by identifying as women. That's a lie.
For satire to be good, it has to be a humorous exaggeration of something actually happening in society. Good satire IS accurate in that the thing it's satirizing is real.

SatyrService · M

@BohemianBoo an exaggeration,, is not the same as a lie

i dont think there ARE men just saying there are women in sports

but i have seen men, with ZERO feminine qualities, identifying as a woman
and a muscly bearded guy is just hard to take seriously in that context

and Satire does often exaggerate

this is fun
[media=https://youtu.be/HTEUXulCJZY]

DogMan · 61-69, M

@SatyrService I saw it, very funny, only because it is based in truth. Exaggeration yes,
but an exaggeration of the truth.