Is climate change a hoax

Conservatives claims so then why is it a hoax is it becuase conservatives been spoonfed it on conservative media rather than understaindg the acutal science since conservatives look down on booklearning and thus strongly misstrust science in general.

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SW-User

@gol979 I have now watched it. It is full of mistakes from start to finish.

But first and foremost, the scientist that took the readings from the lear jet is called Yuri Gorby.

He's an actual scientist with an impressive publication record

But apparently he has fallen for the chemtrail theory. He's also let his emotions cloud his judgment. He should know that his measurements presented in this documentary do not prove anything, other than the fact that there is mineral dust in the air, which is hardly a new finding.

The movie presents no actual quantitative data. People look at screens and mention the compositions of a few particles they see in the electron microscope. It doesn't appear that number concentrations of particles were measured. Also, they seem to just randomly select particles without doing any systematic analysis. Very unscientific, probably backed up by the fact that Gorby remains anonymous throughout the documentary. Probably embarrassed with his findings.

Also, when they fly in the learjet and sample the air from the vent they used a TSI P-Trak instrument which measures the number concentration of particles of 20 to 1000 nm. BTW nanoparticles are <100 nm by definition, so this instrument doesn't only measure nanoparticles. It measures ultrafine particles, also called PM0.1

They measure around 1700 ultrafine particles per cubic centimeter.

There are no standards about the ultrafine particle number concentration, but for indoor air quality (IAQ)

<5,000 particles per cubic centimeter – desirable; limited amount of IAQ complaints
<10,000 particles per cubic centimeter – acceptable; normal amount of IAQ complaints
>10,000 particles per cubic centimeter – likelihood and frequency of IAQ complaints increases.

So apparently they had excellent air quality in that cabin, with quite a low number of ultrafine particles.

This documentary is nothing more than fear porn. This guy has been spouting the same shit for the last ten years at least, and none of his dire predictions have ever come to pass.

I laughed and then went out.

gol979 · 41-45, M

@SW-User fair enough. You think that the powers that shouldnt be arent manipulating the weather. They are but you have your own view and we disagree, nothing wrong that

SW-User

@gol979 well actually we are manipulating the weather, just not in the way you think. The water vapour emissions from aeroplanes are a large part of the problem. They warm the climate far more than CO2 or any of these trace pollutants that their so-called “scientific “ experiments found.

gol979 · 41-45, M

@SW-User i thought contrails we eh ok??

So you do think weather manipulation (the way i mean it) is happening now?

SW-User

@gol979 those are normal contrails not chemtrails. They contribute to climate change (which you don’t believe in), but there is no government conspiracy to control us with chemicals (unless of course you are referring to the global conspiracy to prevent action on curbing emissions

gol979 · 41-45, M

@SW-User so no governments in the world are manipulating the weather? Simple yes or no. If you think its no, i disagree and dont take any of your recommendations on how to change the way i live and if its yes, then how about asking governments to stop manipulating weather before banging on about "climate change"

SW-User

@gol979 no they are not manipulating the weather. End of.

gol979 · 41-45, M

@SW-User just type in "cloud seeding australia". Plenty of mainstream articles for you. They are manipulating weather. Will you now start opposing this before wanting to massacre millions of cattle? I doubt it very much so we can all just ignore your hypocritical ideas and demands

SW-User

@gol979 the Australian government is being open about cloud seeding, which has been attempted for decades, and rarely works anyway.

What that video claims is a whole new level of crazy, and has no evidence to back it up.

I don’t share your paranoid delusions so we’ll leave it at that