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GM makes Warren Buffet a believer . . . that its electric vehicle strategy is a failure?



Photo above - drone's eye view of unsold electric vehicles.
Not Shown - if any affordable EV's are being manufactured somewhere in the USA.


Warren Buffett's firm sheds nearly half its stake in GM (freep.com)

Can you just envision how THIS phone call went? (Full disclosure - all dialogue is imaginary)

“Ring Ring - Hello, this is Warren Buffett, and I'd like to make a trade in my Merry Lynched account.”

“Oh . . .good morning Mr. Buffett! Thanks for being a loyal customer for the past 80 years. What can we do for you today?”

“I want to sell some General Motors shares”

“Very good sir. I can help you with that. How many shares will you be selling today?”

“Um . . . half, I guess.”

“Half . . . ???? As in . . .?”

“Yeppers . . . 20 million shares. As soon as possible. At the market price, which is about is $39 a share. So that should come to about $1 Billion, more or less. Put the proceeds in my CMA cash balance account. I don't really have anything else I'm thinking of buying now. Oh . . . and stand by, I might be calling back about the other half of my GM shares sooner or later . . .”

Stop laughing. Something along these lines actually took place, even if Warren's trade was electronic instead of executed with a phone call. Buffett DID sell half his GM shares last month. (See link above). Why did he do this? According to the Detroit Free Press article, the Sage of Omaha has lost faith in GM's electric car strategy.

But - my loyal readers will ask - Buffett is still an overall believer in 'lectric cars, right? He must own a ton of Tesla. You'd think so, but actually his TLSA share number is zero. Warren is probably kicking himself for not getting in on the Tesla ground floor. And TSLA's share price has gone up 20X just since the pandemic. Their 12 month trailing P/E ratio per share is an astonishing 75. The DJIA seems much more reasonable, at a 25 P/E. Seems so, but that 25 PE is about double the DJIA long term historical average, too. So the entire stock market might be overpriced by about 100%. Anyway, Tesla just announced another round of car price cuts, because inventories of unsold Model 3's are piling up. Maybe everyone who wants an anodyne dork-mobile in black, white or silver already has one? The Model 3 "cool factor" ended at some point in 2022.

Back to GM
. What else might spook Warren Buffett? I mean besides that every Chevy Bolt ever built needed its battery replaced? Besides the hilariously huge electron-guzzling Hummer? And the barely better 'lectric Chevy Silverado, which is still MIA from dealers' lots? Well, did you hear about the upcoming UAW strikes? It seems auto workers are demanding a 40% pay raise. Apparently, they want to be paid the same as Teamster Union UPS drivers, who recently scored a $170,000 annual comp deal (including pension rights, health insurance, dental coverage, vision, etc). President Biden tried to take a victory lap and claim credit for this contract, but then wisely backed off.

So what companies DOES Warren Buffett like? Apple, definitely. He owns nearly $120 Billion (with a B) of APPL. Millions and millions of shares. It's not only his number one holding – it's more than all of his other top 10 holdings – COMBINED!

So does Buffet even own ANY electric vehicle stocks? Surprisingly, yes. He owns a chunk of that Chinese automaker called BYD. Which only builds cars in China, and doesn't even sell anything in America – yet. BYD is now the world's mightiest electric car maker. Bigger even than Tesla.

Buy American much, Warren? Sorry. I withdraw that snark. It might come across as political and cultural judgement. Billionaires are allowed to invest anywhere they damn well please. Even in nations like China, where Foxconn's gigafactories make virtually all the Apple phones. Possibly right around the corner from the ginormous BYD assembly lines. So, let's not make this column about uber-patriotism. Let's talk about investment risk, okay?

Sheesh Warren. If you can cast shade on GM because of a few Chevy Bolt battery fires, what do you think is going to happen to companies like Apple and BYD if China makes good on its constant threats to invade Taiwan? I don't see sales numbers going up. Share prices might actually tank. I mention this, Warren, since you're usually focused so clearly on risk. Remember what happened to all those Russian companies in 2022? Or German companies in 1939 . . . ?

I'm just sayin' . . .

(Legally required disclaimer - this writer holds no position in any of the companies mentioned in this article, except as part of S&P 500 index funds. This article is not an endorsement of any S&P index funds, either.)
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Graylight · 51-55, F Best Comment
Buffet pulled back on his investment, and it's surmised it's due to GM's rough launch into the EV market. Business.

Nowhere is it intimated that Buffet is abandoning electric or that it's not a viable alternative to investigate. Without trial and failure, solutions cannot be reached.

Kind of like your posts.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@Graylight thanks for YET AGAIN not reading a single word of my post, beyond the subject line.

the body of the text, where I discussed in detail Warren's huge stake in BYD, the worlds largest EV builder.

You are THE GREATEST. You make me look like einstein. thank you so much.

Love and kisses. Best reply.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@SusanInFlorida Oh, no, I careened through it like a pinball. My comment stands, Kitchen Sink.

samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
I will not bother to argue with your premise, but, that is a stock photo of automobile inventory, the original did not say they are all EVs.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@SusanInFlorida I read in the business section that Chevy changed its mind on that. So one of us is incorrect. Let us check it out.

The renewed Bolt was announced at a recent earnings meeting, I hope this link works:

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2023/07/next-generation-chevy-bolt-ev-confirmed-by-gm/
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@samueltyler2 excerpts from this link:

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2023/07/next-generation-chevy-bolt-ev-confirmed-by-gm/

"The General seemingly axed the Chevy Bolt EV and Chevy Bolt EUV from its lineup back in January of this year as was exclusively reported by GM Authority. Manufacture of the Bolt was to cease permanently once production of the 2023 Chevy Bolt EV and 2023 Chevy Bolt EUV wrapped up on November 7th, 2023 after a model year production run time of 16 months and 70,000 total units built."

"The current Chevy Bolt is a relic of an earlier era in GM EV development, explaining why the vehicle was scheduled to be discontinued. The advent of GM Ultium batteries and GM Ultium Drive motors marked the beginning of GM’s third generation of electric vehicle tech, while the Bolt used second-generation technology."

"GM Authority previously reported on Barra’s remarks during an early summer interview when the executive said the “Bolt is something that has built up a lot of loyalty and equity” and added that she couldn’t discuss future projects, seemingly hinting at the return of the Chevy Bolt."
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@SusanInFlorida then better check the update I sent you. This August they apparently changed their mind about the Bolt. Of course it won't be the same old bolt, who would market an unimproved model after those years, oh, except maybe Tesla.
Quetzalcoatlus · 46-50, M
EV ranges arent there yet, the infrastructure isn’t ready in most parts of the US. It’s just a matter of time , the technology will catch up…
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@samueltyler2 you have failed in your third reply. still no listing of current ford plug in hybrids. you are desperately trying to muddy the water with pivots to volvo, audi and porsche.

you may me mentally unstable, or just a deliberate liar?
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@SusanInFlorida I find you incredibly obnoxious. You call me unstable. Is that your best offense/defense?

Here is a quick result on Google, how difficult is that?

https://www.ford.com/new-hybrids-evs/
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Most folks cant shell out $60,000. and most would be more open to electric cars if they were more affordable. and that may be on day, but definitely not today.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@SusanInFlorida the fire on the ship was not just EV vehicles, and I know of several homes that burned down when the owner's BMWs caught fire spontaneously. I was never told to park outside, that is amazing for you to say.

That link doesn't work on my mobile device.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@samueltyler2 we must all be optimists, and hope that no actual events challenge our preconceptions of the world.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@SusanInFlorida what??

You know, when I am corrected and realize I was wrong, and learned something new, I usually say, i am sorry i argued, thank you for the new information. Just saying.
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
once investors have squeezed all the money they can out of all this greenie nonsense, EV's will fall into seclusion like flying cars, commercial spaceflight, etc.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@wildbill83 Scooters are gaining popularity in the States at a sharp rate. They're compact, the can run for hundreds of miles before fill-up or they can charged easily. They last far, far longer than full size vehicles, take little upkeep and save fuels.

In most states, electric scooters are allowed on roads with a speed limit of 25 mph or less. That's generally 49cc and below. There's a market for them, but comparing them to actual vehicles is a huge mistake. A golf cart isn't an F-150.

Gas scooters, which are classified as motorcycles, can exceed 100 mph and use a fraction of the fuel to do it. And again, you're comparing rowboats to cruise ships.
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
@Graylight if you're not concerned about time, weather, cargo, etc. why not just walk or ride a bicycle instead? 🤔

sure, they might work in a flat city where you don't travel more than 5 or 6 miles; but it's quite another story in the 95% of the country that isn't metropolitan where people are travelling 50+ miles to work in extremely hot or extremely cold temperatures, up and down hills and mountains...

gas powered side by sides/UTV's are more popular here, scooters are basically kids toys or something for geriatrics to ride around the campground on...
Graylight · 51-55, F
@wildbill83 Bikes are faster, and many of us know rain is just water. I routinely commute 50 minutes one way each day. I've done hours on end on a scooter. Jacket's work in cold, mesh works in heat.

I ride a 495cc scooter right now that has more horsepower than many "bikes" on the road. I live with extreme heat, storms, cold, wind and the idiot tourists who flood this place. I beat most of them to my destination, pay an average of $7.50 to fill up and I get the open road.

The gas-powered side-by-side scooters you're talking about can be financed through your health insurance.
Graylight · 51-55, F
I just get the sense you have a basement room filled with corkboard, thread and surveillance photos with all the conspiracies proven.
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
Some of us are interested in an EV. The engineering isn't ready in any of the EVs available in the US. Sooner or later Chinese EVs will be available here.

American branded car companies lost my business in the 80s.

Index funds are the best investments.
Spotpot · 46-50, M
There are countries that have much higher pentration rate of EVs than the US EV infrastracture is much better built out in those countries.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@Spotpot and your point is? is this another hymn of praise about Norway? The place that has 85% EV penetration because revenues from Norways North Sea oil wells are used to elminate EV's 25% value added tax, subsidize tolls, registration fees, etc.

This is called "greenwashing". Continuing an environmentally destructive activity because it is extremely profitable, and diverting a portion of the resulting revenue toward trophy environmental policies.

Oh . . and Norway is one of the handful of nations on earth which still allows commercial whaling. I believe the meat is sold to Japan for dog-food.

Just so you know.
Spotpot · 46-50, M
Warren Buffet likely has alot of investments in the fossil fuel industry.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@Spotpot apparently everything is an afterthought to Apple, which is larger than all his other stakes combined.

In any event, I don't see gas stations disappearing during my lifetime.

 
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