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Mathers · 61-69
Interesting I know that the vegan diet is always adopted by people who don’t know anything about the way we have evolved into a meat-eating diet. We are meant to eat meat and doctors are very concerned about particularly young girls who swallow this sort of nonsense about veganism being healthy when it is of course not. The vegan diet is of course deficient. What’s more it adds to the carbon footprint with all the vegetarian food which has to be flown in
@Mathers
Most people do just fine on a diet without meat. And it's important to remember that this is not all or nothing proposition. You can choose to reduce the amount of meat or animal products you consume and that is better than doing nothing and turning a blind eye,
Because it's not ok the way we raise and harvest most of these animals and it's not justified by the fact that we have evolved to eat meat as well as plants.
Evolution is not a policy.
Most people do just fine on a diet without meat. And it's important to remember that this is not all or nothing proposition. You can choose to reduce the amount of meat or animal products you consume and that is better than doing nothing and turning a blind eye,
Because it's not ok the way we raise and harvest most of these animals and it's not justified by the fact that we have evolved to eat meat as well as plants.
Evolution is not a policy.
@Mathers
Can you throw me a link?
Also, i think you've rather skipped over the main point i was communicating in my reply to you.
It doesn't have to be all or nothing. Reduction in harm is good even if it's not the elimination of harm.
I was listening to a medical expert the other day who was saying the opposite to what you do.[quote]
[/quote]Can you throw me a link?
Also, i think you've rather skipped over the main point i was communicating in my reply to you.
It doesn't have to be all or nothing. Reduction in harm is good even if it's not the elimination of harm.
@Mathers
But when you're raising animals you're increasing the carbon footprint even more because in addition to the animals themselves, you're using huge amounts of resources to feed them.
There's no way around that. Just basic maths lol
The other thing is of cours3 that growing the stuff raises the carbon footprint too!
But when you're raising animals you're increasing the carbon footprint even more because in addition to the animals themselves, you're using huge amounts of resources to feed them.
There's no way around that. Just basic maths lol
Mathers · 61-69
You obviously know nothing about the farming business apart from the second hand propaganda you got off the Internet as you seem to get most of your silly nonsense of the Internet that you regurgitate on your site. Why don’t you grow up and get a few facts you research for yourself?@Pikachu
@Mathers
No need to get upset.
If i'm mistaken then do please correct the mistake in my reasoning:
1) Producing plant material for a vegetarian diet requires x amount of resources.
2) Producing livestock requires [b]y[/b] amount of resources plus x amount of resources to feed the livestock.
3) Therefore, the net use of resources is greater to produce livestock than a plant based diet.
Feel free to explain where that reasoning is in error....
No need to get upset.
If i'm mistaken then do please correct the mistake in my reasoning:
1) Producing plant material for a vegetarian diet requires x amount of resources.
2) Producing livestock requires [b]y[/b] amount of resources plus x amount of resources to feed the livestock.
3) Therefore, the net use of resources is greater to produce livestock than a plant based diet.
Feel free to explain where that reasoning is in error....
Mathers · 61-69
Please get facts right.
Your fertilisers for producing your vegan crops for feeding large scale population requires more carbon footprint than ever the livestock. One of the lies you gullibly swallow. Veganism on a large scale means reducing the forests to grow more food. It also means mass starvation. The diet is also unhealthy on a long term - medically proved but the cultists don’t tell you. But wait till middle age@Pikachu
Your fertilisers for producing your vegan crops for feeding large scale population requires more carbon footprint than ever the livestock. One of the lies you gullibly swallow. Veganism on a large scale means reducing the forests to grow more food. It also means mass starvation. The diet is also unhealthy on a long term - medically proved but the cultists don’t tell you. But wait till middle age@Pikachu
@Mathers
I'm not sure why you're having so much trouble understanding this.
Answer me this, which scenario requires more resources:
a) using land to grow vegetables for human consumption or
b) using land to raise livestock AND grow the vegetables needed to feed them AND grow the vegetables that humans already eat.
Simple maths, my dude. Don't be a sheep.
.Why don’t you grow up and get a few facts you research for yourself?
Just google the percentage of land that is devoted to cultivating crops for human consumption vs the land devoted to feeding livestock.
Here, i'll get you started:
I'm not sure why you're having so much trouble understanding this.
Answer me this, which scenario requires more resources:
a) using land to grow vegetables for human consumption or
b) using land to raise livestock AND grow the vegetables needed to feed them AND grow the vegetables that humans already eat.
Simple maths, my dude. Don't be a sheep.
.Why don’t you grow up and get a few facts you research for yourself?
Just google the percentage of land that is devoted to cultivating crops for human consumption vs the land devoted to feeding livestock.
Here, i'll get you started:
The proportions are even more striking in the United States, where just 27 percent of crop calories are consumed directly — wheat, say, or fruits and vegetables grown in California. By contrast, more than 67 percent of crops — particularly all the soy grown in the Midwest — goes to animal feed. And a portion of the rest goes to ethanol and other biofuels.
https://www.vox.com/2014/8/21/6053187/cropland-map-food-fuel-animal-feed
Mathers · 61-69
Well instead of getting things off the Internet you need to do a bit of proper reading. The problem is that I’m not having a lot of trouble understanding it because you’re not making any sense. Anybody who knows anything knows that a lot of this propaganda is nonsense anyway and it’s fed to the masses for gullible people to swallow. We know that to make biofuels is actually less green than our present system. I know you’re one of these people who pretends to be knowledgeable and tries to talk down to people but you don’t actually fool people that are in the know@Pikachu