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Vegans are acceptable targets to mock these days but i've a challenge for all the meat eaters here: Watch and tell me it doesn't affect you.

"Most of us consider ourselves animal lovers"
It's called Dominion and if you can't invest the 2 hours then just watch the first section on pigs. It's one thing to hear about the bad, mean things that humans do to poor livestock but it's quite another to witness the terror and the pain of the animals as they're suffering slow, horrific deaths.
Tell me what you feel watching it.
Does it compel you to make different choices?
Does it at least make you want to make different choices?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQRAfJyEsko&ab_channel=FarmTransparencyProject

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SnailTeeth · 36-40
No, this doesn't compel me. One of these comes out very 5 years, and it's white noise at this point.

Instead of making videos, holding protests, they really just need to make vegan protein alternatives cheaper than meat, then focus on making them better. No amount of guilt or anxiety is going to change this, money is what talks.

Personally, Idc where I get my 400g of complete protein every day, I just care that it's cheap and sustainable for me.
@SnailTeeth

Did you watch even the small amount i challenged you to watch?
Or did you just say to yourself "Yeah, yeah. I get it" and then make your post?

Personally, Idc where I get my 400g of complete protein every day

If you had a choice between protein that was harvested by pain and death or protein that was cruelty free, would you care to chose the latter over the former?
SnailTeeth · 36-40
@Pikachu I don't want to watch it, because I'm already depressed. I'm well aware of the anti-biotic issues, the filth, potential risk to humanity with superbugs etc., it's been that way for decades.

I don't think death is cruel; I think life is mostly just filling the void between birth and death. But I agree the cruelty needs to stop, the living conditions need to improve, the keepers of these places need to respect and love the animals more.

I wouldn't object to society cannabilising me. I believe we should be provided the choice to check-out permanently.

These creatures could easily die a worse death in the wild, drawn out over agonising days. Have you considered that? (I know some do, in captivity, and it's sad)

Personally, I would feel cruel owning and confining a domesticated animal (Eg. Cat, dog), who's existence is just to co-exist, never having their own independence. I think like most subjective issues, there are different strokes for different folks.
@SnailTeeth
So you have chosen apathy.
SnailTeeth · 36-40
@Pikachu Mostly I just choose non-judgement. I don't presume to know what's best for other people and their dietary habits.
@SnailTeeth

You haven't been asked to presume what's best for other people.
SnailTeeth · 36-40
@Pikachu I have seen the video before, actually.

Honestly, I don't think you care. I think you're just trying to assert a sense of superiority in your social life, because you can't get a leg up in your personal life. I would say this is virtue-signalling, if not for your history of troll posts.
@SnailTeeth

I'm sorry your life is so unhappy that you're numb to the suffering of other beings. And i do mean that.
I still think taking a life is a big deal and is even more tragic when that life is taken in terror and pain.


But if we've moved on to assigning motivations in order to criticize them and thereby justify dismissing the other person then i'm simply not interested in talking to you any more.
If you'd like to walk that back then we can carry on.