Vegans are acceptable targets to mock these days but i've a challenge for all the meat eaters here: Watch and tell me it doesn't affect you.
[b][i][c=800000]"Most of us consider ourselves animal lovers"[/c][/i][/b] It's called Dominion and if you can't invest the 2 hours then just watch the first section on pigs. It's one thing to hear about the bad, mean things that humans do to poor livestock but it's quite another to witness the terror and the pain of the animals as they're suffering slow, horrific deaths. Tell me what you feel watching it. Does it compel you to make different choices? Does it at least make you [i]want[/i] to make different choices?
Yeah this was what made me vegan for a long time. Eggs and dairy are part of suffering in the meat machine after all.
The only animal I feel relatively OK with taking product from is bees because it is in beekeepers best interest to treat their bees well. If the bees don't like the hive or the area, they'll just leave.
@Doomflower Mussels and oysters definitely have my stamp of approval. I'm yet unconvinced that eating honey is any worse than eating an equivalent amount of cane sugar (pest control kills insects anyway), I honestly just abstain from it bc it pisses off other vegans and it's not worth it for me.
