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Liberals SHOCKED that "unaccompanied minors" are being exploited in the USA . . .

https://dnyuz.com/2023/02/25/alone-and-exploited-migrant-children-work-brutal-jobs-across-the-u-s/

Last year those on the political left were outraged that “unaccompanied minors” were finding it difficult to illegally enter the USA. So various executive orders and court decisions flooded the country with these kids.

THIS YEAR, the left is outraged that these same minors are working illegally in factories and farms.

Check out the link above. Some kids were allowed entry in to “rejoin” relatives they had never actually met before in their lives. Is it any wonder they made no effort to find these kin, and immediately hit the bricks looking for work?

Okay . . . the link above is focused on kids working a cereal factory. In restaurants. NYC Food delivery. Now imagine the kids the NYT reporters DIDNT find. The "sex workers". Drug mules. Captive nannies and maids, like the ones which elites in Saudi Arabia and China have.

What we have here is a failure of basic logic. If thousands of kids enter the USA without their parents, are given a slip of paper and told to report back in two months, what did anyone EXPECT was going to happen? Certainly our “open borders” activists and media didn't have a clue.

Now these kids are a “scandal”. There is outrage that people would actually hire then. The "villains" are supposedly the places that employ them. Not the people who opened the borders, then turned their backs on them.

Morons make a mess, then point the finger at everyone else.

Full disclosure – NYC now has an estimated 1,500 illegal/unlicensed pot dispensaries. And even a door-dash style marijuana delivery service. How many underaged kids do you think are involved in things like THIS? While you're at it, why not check out those hotels which NYC converted to emergency housing for illegals? I betcha people could buy drugs, or time with an underaged girl there. . . How else do you think they're making money?

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BlueVeins · 22-25

Republicans have fought tooth and nail to maintain the existence of this gigantic underclass of people working under the table, unable to rely on law enforcement protection & labor rights, and then do an about-face whenever those same people get exploited by human traffickers and otherwise victimized by violent criminals. I used to think they really believed that continuing to use the same policy of strict immigrant criminalization would somehow work this time if they did it just a little harder, but with the length of time it's been failing for, I struggle to call it anything other than malice.

SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F

@BlueVeins do you have a link to substantiate this?

all corporations - no matter what affiliation - seek to control labor expense, and automate if they cannot.

if you doubt this, just examine the flow of jobs from the US to 3rd world countries. India. Pakistan, Turkey. Mexico . ..

Evidently Elon Musk announced yesterday that he is sending some Telsa assembly jobs to Mexico. Wasn't Tesla the darling of Democrats a few years ago, and the recipient of Billions and Billions in tax credits and subsidies to provide "clean transportation"?

I'm not sure ANY cars should have federal subsidies ,whether they run on batteries, are hybrids, use hydrogen, or some weird technology we haven't thought of yet.

But I'm pretty sure that if Taxpayers are asked to subsidize ANYTHING those cars should be made in the USA. Not Japan, Mexico, China, South Korea . . .etc.

BlueVeins · 22-25

@SusanInFlorida
[quote]do you have a link to substantiate this?[/quote]

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1177
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3839447-gop-led-states-call-on-court-to-shut-down-daca/
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5f2ed301da84567c22edd5bf/t/6140bf82b6fc4b24b9026ea9/1631633282301/Spring-2021_Quinley.pdf

Not sure what electric cars have to do with this, but I do agree that subsidizing electric cars is an inadequate solution to the climate crisis. A focus on public transit & zoning laws is paramount, but sadly the US is decades behind on that entire conversation. Having said that, the EV tax credit is actually pretty protectionist in how it works; no car made outside of North America qualifies.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/automakers-foreign-governments-seek-changes-us-ev-tax-rules-2022-11-08/

Graylight · 51-55, F

@SusanInFlorida Sooner or later, we need to stop the myth of 'Murican-made. Every car for the last 35 years has included parts sourced from other countries. An “American-made” vehicle might have 6 different countries’ hands in it.

Here’s why subsidies. Because while EVs may not be the solution, the do propel us farther down the road. Success is built on trial and failure, by two steps forward and 1 step back. Because just settling never got anyone anything except what they settled for.

But in the same way you have to give people deals to do things, you have to incentivize them to do more than the bare minimum. Subsidies accomplish that.

Graylight · 51-55, F

They’re not outraged and shocked that it happens. This is hardly earth-shattering information. They’re outraged because it keeps happening.

And, your racism is showing again.

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Graylight · 51-55, F

@SusanInFlorida No. Pedophilia falls within the realm of paraphilic disorders family. it is age-specific, symptom specific. There are other disorders that address other ages and symptoms. You don’t get to make up definitions as you see fit. Rather, as you say, you should “live within” them.

Researchers reports a 5-24% recidivism rate after 15 years. The rate among all criminals across the US is 44%.
https://smart.ojp.gov/somapi/chapter-5-adult-sex-offender-[i]recidivism#:~:text=Sexual%20recidivism%20rates%20range%20from,24%20percent%20after%2015%20years.[/i]

Know what you speak of before you open your mouth. Stop cutting and pasting articles. Find a prison job that occupies your day.

SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F

@Graylight really - some people say it's a crime. other's that it's an incurable mental illness. how about bestiality? necrophilia? porn addiction?

Graylight · 51-55, F

@SusanInFlorida Who says it's incurable? And nearly everyone says the act is a crime. Porn addiction doesn't exist in the professional world. The other examples are other disorders and this isn't a psychology class.

ron122 · 41-45, M

Thats what the left-wing clowns do. They create a problem with their stupidity then blame someone else.

anythingoes477 · M

Matt Gaetz is thrilled at this news. A whole new dating pool.

Just checking..........but [b][c=BF0000]EVERY[/c][/b] "liberal" in United States was completely, totally unaware than ANYONE other than adult males crosses our borders??????? They were[b][u][c=BF0000] ALL[/c][/u][/b] totally clueless than any one younger than 21 crossed?? Well, I'll be damned.

LeopoldBloom · M

Extrapolating from the number of federal labor investigators in the 1940s (when the ratio was highest), Kim Bobo, in her book [i]Wage Theft in America[/i], calculated that we would need around 4,500 of them to account for the increase in population since then. There are something like 800 of them now to cover the entire U.S. In addition to enforcing child labor regulations in states that lack them, they also investigate minimum wage and overtime violations, and enforce the Family and Medical Leave Act, prevailing wage on federal contracts, and laws covering farm workers and temporary nonimmigrant workers.

Isn't this what conservatives are always saying - if you defund the police, criminals will commit crimes. The people to blame for these Oliver Twist conditions are anti-regulation conservatives, not liberals. Republicans in Iowa have proposed revoking child labor laws in those states as long as employers claim to be providing an education service to the kids they exploit.

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LeopoldBloom · M

@SusanInFlorida Unfortunately, the Fair Labor Standards Act specifically exempts children who work for their parents from minimum wage and overtime laws, and it's Department of Labor policy to not pursue back wages that employers owe their relatives. But if there aren't enough investigators to follow up on all complaints, let alone target problem industries where people don't generally complain at all, this is what happens.

And I'm sorry, I can't work up too much sympathy for the Irish indentured servants when Africans were being sold into actual slavery. The children of indentured servants weren't slaves. I mean, it was fucked up, but after a few generations, they were basically assimilated.

SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F

@LeopoldBloom one of the hallmarks of modern morality is recognizing exploitation, no matter what race, religion, ethnic group . . . or asking "who had it the worst?"

It's part of the problem leading up to "reverse discrimination" at America's elite colleges, which set quotas on how many asians with super-high SAT scores are allowed to get in.

LeopoldBloom · M

@SusanInFlorida Maybe, but Black people and Native Americans were treated worse than other groups. That's simply a fact, not a competition.

And yeah, it sucks that deserving Asians are being kept out of universities. A few generations ago, it was the Jews. And it wasn't that long ago that Black people couldn't get in either.

Gloomy · F

Liberals are not "the left" 🙄 also while it's abhorrent that these kids were not properly cared for your post does shift the blame away from the pigs that are exploiting minors for profit.

MrBrownstone · 46-50, M

Liberals are always shocked by facts.

anythingoes477 · M

@MrBrownstone Obviously your comment is pure facts. ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)

anythingoes477 · M

You know where some of those exploited illegals minors ended up?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacheverson/2021/11/17/the-trump-organization-sought-to-hire-87-foreign-workers-at-mar-a-lago-this-year/?sh=11b0855c779f

That was LAST year...............checking records trump has a history of hiring illegals EVERY YEAR......going way back. Because.............he can screw them out of benefits as non-citizens while he pays them less than prevailing wages..........and knows they can't complain.

You live in Florida I believe.................how many restaurants do you go to In Deathsantis's state that don't even speak English? or so little they need help taking an order in English. See Deathsantis taking any of those freebie workers away from his high dollar business donors to ship them to New Hampshire?

SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F

@anythingoes477 most illegals end up in food service or agriculture. the fact that Trump would be implicated is no more surprising than finding them in so many restaurants, farms etc operated by large donors to both parties.

anythingoes477 · M

@SusanInFlorida The "stupid liberals" know that..........so it's just amazing that those same "stupid liberals" would be shocked so many come across the border that aren't grown males. It was those same "stupid shocked liberals" that demanded that minors that trump took way from parents be released from the cages at the border.
Over 90% of those kids could no longer be connected to their parents because after being denied entry they went forced to go back to where they came from, leaving their kids in the U.S..........in cages. Which kind of explains why there are minor illegals that were left to work and survive any way they could.

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

Got to love the fact you blame the victims of this and not the people exploiting them.

carpediem · 61-69, M

Excellent post

Roundandroundwego · 61-69

So? Was there another choice between left and right capitalism without regulations and without a welfare state?

SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F

@Roundandroundwego my position is quite clear to anyone who actually read beyond the headline. Admission of "unaccompanied minors" to the USA is a violation of all conceivable norms. We wouldn't allow US born "unaccompanied minors" to roam the streets with no places to stay, and no source of food and clothing.

If we want to let "unaccompanied minors" enter the USA, we have an obligatinon to perform better "due diligence" on their claims of having relatives here already, and ensure that they are safely transported to the care and supervision of those relatives.

If those relatives are fictitious, then they should be denied entry, the same as adults (mostly) are.

Roundandroundwego · 61-69

@SusanInFlorida you shouldn't deny asylum rights to the whole family. That's against the law. But nobody expected fairness from the NATO nation without principles who can kill everyone. Ok you have an opinion. Americans can have any opinions. Lies are okay.

Gloomy · F

@SusanInFlorida [quote]then they should be denied entry[/quote] or you should just take care of them? Living in a fuckin rich imperialist nation the US could do that, after all it destabilized Latin America in the past. But the people don't seem to even want each other to be taken good care of due to hyper Capitalist individualistic rotten morality and values 🤮

Steve42 · 56-60, M

So the conservatives knew all along and did nothing? What are you saying here?

Vivaci

That’s really disturbing news.

Virgo79 · 61-69, M

I bet they are😏

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