Kari Lake is still roaming around like a sad sack claiming she is the "duly elected Governor of Arizona."

Rumour has it she also still believes she deserved an "A" on that English high school essay.

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there should be slander/libel laws for claiming an election was rigged, when the courts have decided it was fair, and no evidence exists to the contrary.

for that matter, there should be slander/libel prosecutions when candidates claim (without proof) that their opponents are

1. communists
2. white supremacists
3. wife beaters
4. gay
5. alcoholics or drug addicts
6. mentally ill
7. tax cheaters
9. born overseas
10. traffic/parking scofflaws

LordShadowfire · M

@SusanInFlorida There actually are laws about saying that shit, but apparently, politicians are allowed to violate said laws without consequence.

SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F

@LordShadowfire yes. this is a theme i've posted on before. The slander/libel laws which apply to you or me are "relaxed" if the accuser is the media or a politician. On the dubious principle that "public personalities should expect this to happen"

LordShadowfire · M

@SusanInFlorida It started with Clinton, Believe it or not. He was the first presidential candidate to ignore protocol and decorum and just start launching zingers at his opponent during a debate. But he didn't cross the line the way Trump and company do. They popularized this current trend of making slanderous remarks. Now both sides are doing it, but one side is a [i]bit[/i] more guilty than the other.

SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F

@LordShadowfire i'm not an astute enough student of history to say whether or not this started with Clinton.

But didn't two 19th century candidates have a pistol duel at one point? didn't one senator try to horsewhip another during an open session?

LordShadowfire · M

@SusanInFlorida Well, sure they did, but even in those violent days, they had a sense of honor. If you slandered a political opponent the way folks do these days, it would be pistols at dawn or shut the fuck up. I'm not saying that's a better way, at all. I'm just saying that fear of retribution by violence kept people from using slanderous terms like "groomer", "pedophile", or "traitor". It's ironic that now that our civilization is becoming less violent, people feel free to talk more shit, because they're not afraid of violence.

SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F

@LordShadowfire i'm not sure trying to gun down someone you disagree with is a "matter of honor". no matter how crappy the flintlock pistols, and how many paces you stand apart. it's still homicide.

LordShadowfire · M

@SusanInFlorida I'm absolutely not advocating that we bring back dueling. I'm just saying we need that sense of Honor they had in those days. And yes, that's Honor with a capital H.