Florida, Where All Socio-Economic Problems Have Been Solved

@DeWayfarer I'd like to see that too. It would be terrible for the employees and locals who benefit, but they'd know who to blame. Problem is that it's such a vast amount of land and buildings that I'm not sure it's a viable option.

@Ynotisay there's always a break even point. With this latest move it's far, far closer.

Could easily be done in stages. The stricter it becomes the faster the move. Meanwhile they have a backup in case of hurricanes and such. Georgia isn't as prone to hurricanes like Florida is.

@DeWayfarer WDW sites on 39 square miles, Most of it developed now. No one's moving that. Georgia has film production - the last thing GA can sustain is the Mouse.

@Graylight I'm thinking about the hurricane situation. It's likely to get worse, not better.

Florida simply isn't a good area for anything like Disneyworld now. It's not like California where they only have to worry about earthquakes every once in a great while. And they actually know how to handle earthquakes.

Not so class five hurricanes and possibly worse.

Everything is pointing for Disney world to move. The "breakeven" point is very closely approaching.

@DeWayfarer Disney World is located in central Florida. Prior to hurricane Charley, it had been a century since the last major storm. It’ll be at least that long until another one. All the hype about hurricanes is really nothing down here – we often get summer storms that far exceed the winds we get from a hurricane nearby.

@Graylight This last hurricane, Ian, was right at the border of a cat 5 hurricane, at 155 mph winds.

I don't believe the 160 dead from it would agree with you...

If they could that is.

That's not to mention the 50 to 65 BILLION in damage it caused.

Even one billion in damage is huge. That type of damage is not sustainable for ANY tourist based business even if it didn't cause any damage to them. The darn airports were all closed for days! That had to cost them greatly.

World wide Tourism is most definitely Disney's main business. Not local business or local people.

FYI across the country Disneyland never closed because of the weather, nor even for an earthquake since they opened in 1958.

Other reasons, yes! Never weather nor earthquake.


That simply has to hurt any world wide tourism business! That's just HURRICANES! No other reasons.

@DeWayfarer I lived and worked through Ian. And Charley. And Jeanne. anf Francis. And more. These are rain events whose biggest threat is storms surge, and the best way to stay safe from that is to not go out in it, which is how people die each and every year. The hour after a storms has passed, you can see kids swimming in wastewater, people walking around power lines, caars driving straight into flooded areas.

Bottom lines and lability mean nothing when gauging the devastation of a hurricane. Eating disorder cause 65 billion a year. So do poor English skills. (chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://proenglish.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Summer-2009.pdf, https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/508483-eating-disorders-cost-us-65-billion-a-year-heres-what-federal-agencies-can/)

Disney has recently cut services, eliminated transportation, taken away to tram services and cut features in the parks. That hasn't hurt them. Even stopping down for Covid cost them so little they were flush within two months.

Orlando and hurricanes are hype.

@Graylight closed is closed for whatever reason.

They would be far better off going somewhere else. It doesn't have to be Georgia either.

They simply don't close in California. There is reasons why they don't close in California.

The weather IS one of the main reasons though.

They simply have no control over closures of airports. It's simply not up to Disney world.

Why stay open if ALL the airports are closed! They CAN'T make money if the airports are closed. It's not cost effective. A simple business concept. And they don't control any airport. That's simply up to the government of Florida.

You're saying Florida IS the cause of the problem, which once again Disney world would be better off leaving Florida. This is a no win situation for Disney. Whether problem is the weather or the government of Florida.

@DeWayfarer Yeah, there's a reason Disneyland doesn't close: It's in the most temperate, weather friendly zone of the US and you can't predict earthquakes fast enough to plan to close parks.

Central Florida exists because of WDW. Remove them and you'll see an economic collapse that'll make Haiti look like Hilton Head. but hey, you know better than a 20+ year citizen of the state. You're in the internet.

@Graylight no. I know better because I was right next to Disneyland when a earthquake did happen in the 1970s. I lived a mile away from Disneyland.

Disney Inc really doesn't care! That's the whole point of my reply!

Disneyland should have been shut down! The darn rides had sustained damage.

Think! The Matterhorn!

The darn freeway bridge had collapsed not more than 15 miles away.

BTW before Disney world, Disneyland could have shutdown easily without affecting anything. In fact it almost happened a few times. Why Disney world started up in fact. Disney claiming that it was too hard to conduct business in California is why.

Disney world needs to be shut down actually. They are a monopoly! A monopoly that never would, nor could ever happen in California.

That is beside the point though. Disney Inc doesn't give a darn anyway about Florida. Just like Disney Inc never cared about California.

They will do as they darn please. Even if it ruins an economy. That's how monopolies operate. And why they should never be allowed to become a monopoly.

They can and will do whatever they want to do. DeSantis is far too late to put the brakes on Disney Inc. They are now a worldwide monster of a monopoly.

This is just the parks, resorts and stuff!
Not going into movies or whole TV networks or such.



DeSantis wants to stop all the above! Well DeSantis is decades too late to stop any of it. Simply too late to put the brakes on the monster. The kraken is loose and will go wherever it pleases itself now.

The hurricanes is just a contributing factor for them moving. It does cost them dearly. Yet the picture is far worse than any hurricane could do.

Disney is a world problem now, not a state problem. Just like Google is a world problem. No single country can really affect them. Must less a single laughable state as Florida whose politicians are already bought and sold.

Disney simply will move. Economy be damned. Just like they didn't care about California or the people that rode the Matterhorn after the earthquake!

They simply don't care! All that matters is profits! No profit, then move!!!

In public they are all about being nice and friendly, yet in the boardrooms they are like this famous chief...

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Thanks to @Gusman for the above video! It's a perfect example of what Disney is like in a boardroom meeting. This guy restaurants are expanding like Disney Inc after the 1970s, long after Walt Disney died. Yet it's the same exact attitude of Disney Inc..

Happy to exploit their customers no matter what. Even if it should cause death. Same with Disney world and Florida's economy.

Cut off their profits? They absolutely must leave! That's what DeSantis wants though. For Disney to have less control means far less profits. Better off for them to ruin Florida's economy as an example!