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Conspiracy nutjobs are fun to troll

There is some fun in it! But, sadly, the percentage of conspiracy nutjobs seems to be increasing the past few decades - anyone agree?

The reality is once the percentage of these folks creeps above 10% of society, it becomes more tiresome than fun dealing with this nonsense.

So, if you are one of these minions who think Steve Bannon, MTG or Kari Lake speaks the truth - go eat a D. You are ruining society.
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Conspiracy theorists like the ones who think Trump won because Russia hacked our elections. 😂
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@MayorOfCrushtown i’ve never met anyone claimed that. Please define how you are using the word “hacked”
Zonuss · 46-50, M
@trollslayer The majority of the Democrats as a whole never believed that crap. The Republicans exaggerating again. It was the Clinton Administration if anyone. Today half of the Republicans still believe the 2020 Election was stolen. And we see where they are now which pretty much is saying a lot.
gol979 · 41-45, M
Questioning the spoon fed narrative is considered "conspiracy". That CIA coined phrase "conspiracy theorist" is losing its power. You need to get up to speed, if someone is now questioning the prevalent narrative you have to insert the name of the topic and then add denier. For example, "you climate denier!!!!" or "covid denier!!!". Alternatively you just call anyone with questions "far right"
gol979 · 41-45, M
@Zonuss you are proving my point. You couldnt fit a paper between the red and blue policies. The rhetoric is slightly different but policy pretty much the same
SW-User
@Zonuss That could not possibly be more upside down. What universe do you inhabit?
Zonuss · 46-50, M
@SW-User The real world.
JohnOinger · 41-45, M
@trollslayer has the conservative named Budwick blocked you cause he sure blocked me lol
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@JohnOinger Not yet. But people like that are why I feel so frustrated. There is NO sense to those folks - not even to have fun with. It used to be fun to have good-natured political arguments when you knew the other person was kidding around with the most absurd claims. But these folks actually swallow this stuff!
tindrummer · M
@JohnOinger me too - we lucked out 😛
SW-User
The unhinged conspiracy nuts (at least on the right) always get proven right as soon as another narrative weakens that one
SW-User
@trollslayer


I OWN you! Like Mooch Obama on the auction block!
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@SW-User False. https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-nih-add-ivermectin-list-covid-treatments-1739661

Try agaijn.
SW-User
@trollslayer LOL Newsweek. What a great source. 😂

Give it up. Your kind is crashing and burning and I love it.

Bring on the impeachment!
scrood · 31-35
I don't know about Kari Lake her hair is too short but MTG will be the next Speaker of the House NO MORE RINO UNIPARTY Kevin McCarthy and Cocaine Mitch
Zonuss · 46-50, M
@scrood There's no such thing as a RINO
😂
badminton · 61-69, MVIP
Crackpot conspiracy believers have increased greatly in the past 20 years. It is all due to the internet, which allows the malicious and nutcases unrestricted, unfiltered access to tens of millions of people. Before the internet, conspiracy nuts and purveyors of hate speech were restricted to seedy tabloid newspapers and handing out leaflets on corners.

Right from the start the internet should have had editors and fact-checkers vetting every site. Frauds, racists, those advocating violence and sedition should have been banned and allowed no access to the internet.
@spjennifer That guy was right. Iwent to Hell once.
spjennifer · 61-69, T
@Pitchblue And what was it like there? 👹
spjennifer · 61-69, T
Nah, it's still fun to troll the true believers in conspiracy theories to see how far down the rabbit hole they really are 😃
spjennifer · 61-69, T
@sunsporter1649 Wow, you really are suffering from dementia ole sundowner, that was like 22 years ago now 🤪💩🦆
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@spjennifer Bought any waterfront property yet?
spjennifer · 61-69, T
@sunsporter1649 What the hell are you babbling about now? You mean I don't even get a Branco cartoon anymore? 🤪💩🦆
Zonuss · 46-50, M
Kari Lake is a lunatic.
She's trying to sue to state of Arizona for election fraud.🙂
Zonuss · 46-50, M
@sunsporter1649 More memes aye. Smh..🙂
@sunsporter1649 And the guy who all these criminals did crimes for?





And you answer with a branco fantasy.

RIIIIIIIIIGHT
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
The Republicans tapped in to the disenfranchised. The people who kept voting R but nothing ever improved for them. It's the Democrats fault, the Illegal Immigrants are going to kill you and move into your house, **BLM** The Jews. Be Afraid, Be Very Very Afraid.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@BohemianBabe You are asking a question of a lunatic. Don't expect an answer.
@trollslayer That's what makes it the funnies. He doesn't actually know what Marxism is.
@BohemianBabe And won't even look it up and try to fake it.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
You are strange. That isn't how reality works. Reality isn't a case of the world is split into two groups 'whoever owns the monopoly on authority of information and those that lap it all up' and then 'the conspiracy theorists who think something else but all think the same'.

The world is very complex. No one idea, person or group has all the answers. But to admit the complexity of existence, to not knowing the answers to everything and to not knowing how to create a truly perfect society makes us feel uneasy, vulnerable, insecure.

Mankind has invented narratives to explain the world and justify values which are used to navigate the complexities of life. This started with religions inventing myths that explains the origin of their tribe and justifies their moral codes and the monopoly on power their system holds. Those who disagree would be dismissed as 'heretics', 'blasphemers', 'infidels' etc.

In the modern day the terminology changes a bit. It's no longer heretics, instead it is 'conspiracy theorist', instead of heresy it is 'disinfo'. But the principle still remains the same. We construct our view on reality by a set of narratives and ignore things that go against those narratives. For those high up in the social order, they reject it as it challenges their power, to the broad masses because of the cognitive dissonance.

And this lumping together of people with information counter to holds the monopoly on discourse on any given day, in my mind, should be seen as ridiculous even to the complicity theorists that want to reject anything counter to their narrative. People who challenge whatever the official version of events are on a given day come from all walks of life - nationality, race, religion etc and may have all manner of opinions on whatever issue. They aren't some borg. But to the complicity theorists, everything has be boiled down to a good guys vs bad guys dynamic that even a toddler could understand.

Some religious people do the same. Rather than address the fact that their beliefs are challenged by say many branches of science and society, rather than being in a situation where it's their one belief system against a myriad of disciplines which would make their beliefs seem perhaps a little wrong, they distill all these different groups into one group 'satanists' 'masons' etc. As they appear more credible if it's just one group against one, rather than many. This modern day 'conspiracy theorist' label acts no different. There are some events I question and would have a different explanation for, and to those unable to question anything would label those a 'conspiracy theory'. And there are other events where I do believe the narrative given by those with the monopoly on information.
The world isn't black and white, its not good guys vs bad guys, and I don't think that the narrow mindedness you espouse is any better than the 'conspiracy theorists' you demonise. For starters, your 10% claim. what sources and logic did you use to get to that conclusion, or did you just pull it out of your behind?
spjennifer · 61-69, T
@pianoplayingsteve And yet some of the beliefs out there are just plain bonkers and very "black and white" such as the "Flat Earthers" or the ones who believe JFK Jr. will rise from the dead and be tRump's running mate in 2024. I'll agree that some of the less wild ones may have some grey areas to them but you have to admit some of them are just plain stupidity and ignorance...
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@spjennifer I just want to pretext this with the fact that i sense you are an honest person and wish to honestly find common ground, unlike many on here, so my hopes are we can remain respectful :)

I wouldn't say any of them are black and white, certainly not flat earth. For thousands of years, humanity thought that the earth was flat. You'd be the bonkers one if you thought it was anything else. Scientists would come up with elaborate models for flat earth, and they were very beautiful and if I were alive during those times I'm sure i'd have thought the earth was flat. Thank goodness scientists in those times did not have the ridiculous stance we have now of "everything is set in stone and everything else is a conspiracy" and our progress could evolve.

As for the JFK one, crazy sure but eh. Growing up i was one of the "beautiful minds" kids, top sets, always deep in a book, and pretty much the one trait that unified all the high achievers was the idea of being open minded, like really open minded, we would explore the most crazy of ideas. The mark of an intelligent mind is the ability to entertain an idea without necessarily believing in it. I'd argue it takes LESS intelligence to just dismiss anything you dont understand with a buzzword. I know morons who, and I kid you not, a few years ago would tell me the idea of having robots is a bonkers conspiracy theory. I do understand, as sagan says, we dont wish to be so open minded that our brains fall out, but in 2022 people use these terms to shut down any critical thinking and to feel as if it is somehow virtuous to do so. What one also finds is that reality is often much more seemingly crazy than fiction. I remember my stance in science was always to just drop any idea i have of "common sense" etc and accept I'm going to learn things that seem insane. And yeah, just a basic look at the behaviours and processes of even the most common animal will seem crazy and unthinkable if i hadn't seen it with my own eyes. Fortunately I didn't refuse to look because such an idea would seem "crazy".

I'd argue ignorance comes more from those who refuse to look outside their narrow box and call everything that goes against their star wars movies, mcdonalds and no thinking outside of what my 9-5 job requires people. I know people who refer to entire sections of established history as a "conspiracy theory" as it doesn't line up with their political views.

But let us look at that JFK will rise from the dead claim. I've heard it, it's not very common though so let's not pretend it's majorly reprensitative of conspiracy theory believers. Not that conspiracy theorists are all a borg that all think the same thing. And that's another thing, most people have this good guys vs bad guys view of reality. And that each side is a borg in which the bad guys are evil, stupid conspiracy theorists, and the good guys are the ones that trust "the science(tm)" (whatever that means). Because it's easier to view the world through that lens. Through a narrative, a story. It's why religions are based on stories, foundational myths, which teach their tribe values, their origins etc. We just have a modern day version of that with terms like "conspiracy theorist", "x-ist past" etc. I'm sure you are aware that even decades ago, Russian scientists were able to take, not even just a full dog, but simply just the head of the dog, and use technology to make that head conscious? The dog heads were able to respond to stimuli after being hooked up to technology, they'd flinch and lick their lips. Yet this was just a head, a dead head. Neuralink has enabled a chimpanzee to type messages on a computer with its mind. Perhaps specifically JFK wont come back in 2024, but you see what I'm getting it. There are many implications in technology that could allow SOMETHING like that, and the immediate dismissal of anything like that with buzzwords to me seems stupid really because those same people would deny the possibility of things we are now medically able to do.

Would you say those of the monotheistic religions are just simply crazy? Are all christians simply crazy because they believe Jesus and Lazerus rose from the dead? Are muslims crazy for believing that at in the apocalypse, everyone will rise from their grave with their physical body and be judged by Allah? Are the people with stories of going into a coma and dying and having some sort of religious experience and then being brought back to life through medicine just crazy? As I say, im not specifically arguing for the JFK thing, im just arguing against this outright dismissal of anything that seems even slightly out of the ordinary. For people who talk about wanting humanity to progress, not be primitive, to be open and enlightened, these complicity theorists sure have the close mindedness of the most ignorant of humanity.
spjennifer · 61-69, T
@pianoplayingsteve I was referring to the Flat Earthers of today not from olden times when I can understand that they didn't know any better but fail to understand how someone today can still think that the Earth is a flat disc despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. I also was an overachieving student and have always kept an open mind but am also intelligent enough to realize when something is true and logical.

lol, if someone were to be able to make a talking head of JFK or maybe they might even try to clone him, then maybe but it would also be an obvious fake or technologically unethical. As for religions, they are based on the faith of their faithful and who's to say it isn't true or real to them but I also reserve a great deal of skepticism when it comes to the claims made by their respective books and teachings, no matter which one.

As an RN (M) I have seen far to many medical miracles to dispute the ability of the human mind and body to overcome whatever ails it, now some of that is due to science and medicine but some of it is also difficult enough to explain but those aren't conspiracy theories, they are just unexplained by Science as we know it today, 300 years ago someone being resuscitated by CPR would have been called witchcraft...

 
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