Voter Fraud

What is " wrong " with asking everyone to provide a picture ID to vote ? We are a smart nation I'm certain that we can come up with a mobil ID machine. There are codes that can be used to identify what kind of ID it is. Only a picture, or driving, an immigrant not yet a citizen but in this country legal, public assistance only ect...

In order to be done without accusing one party of cheating, sadly theres going to have to be a representative from both parties be present when the picture are taken and signed off on. Thats just the way it is now, no use in complaining. I know that there are enough people on both sides who want to volunteer to help with elections that are willing to represent their party. To oppose some type of a solution only makes it look like you want non citizens to vote.

I know that there are poor people without assistance or home bound where the mobil ID can go to their homes. There are county buses who take people to Drs appointments even disabled people. There can be county buses that can take them for other assistance.. Has anyone without an ID ever been to a Drs appointment, grocery store, bought alcohol, cigarettes or gotten a controlled prescription ? If yes, then it means that getting an ID is possible. Yes it will cost states and counties more money but I personally have NO PROBLEM having my tax money going for something like this. ANYTHING to shut the f××× fighting the hell up.

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LordShadowfire · 100+, M

What's wrong with it is how much people would charge. On top of that, there's the fact that you would completely eliminate voting by mail, which would prevent immunocompromised folks like me from voting. But hey, if that's your goal...

marke · 70-79, M

@LordShadowfire[quote] What's wrong with it is how much people would charge. On top of that, there's the fact that you would completely eliminate voting by mail, which would prevent immunocompromised folks like me from voting. But hey, if that's your goal...[/quote]

Measures could be taken to allow voters to vote by mail, especially if every ballot in the nation had an identifying number so elections could prove no numbered ballot appeared more than once. In that scenario, if someone stole your mail ballot and voted for you then tough toast because your ballot would have voted for you.

LordShadowfire · 100+, M

@marke Okay. So in your scenario, every registered voter gets a number and that number goes on their ballot? Or would it go on the envelope? Because putting a number on every ballot means that someone could track who voted for whom.

(By someone, I mean a thuggish criminal type who wants to bash in the heads of everybody who voted for candidate X.)

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marke · 70-79, M

@LordShadowfire [quote] Okay. So in your scenario, every registered voter gets a number and that number goes on their ballot? Or would it go on the envelope? Because putting a number on every ballot means that someone could track who voted for whom.
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The number would be like a bar code. Nobody could track down anything without doing deep dives using secret information stored on computers not accessible to the public.

windinhishair · 61-69, M

@marke By "nobody", you mean it could easily be done by a thuggish criminal type who wants to bash in the heads of everybody who voted for candidate X, or a member of his Cult.

LordShadowfire · 100+, M

@windinhishair I agree. I don't see this security system being idiot proof. People thought shredding documents was idiot proof, and I was among them, until I met a proven idiot in the county jail. Dude was a tweeker, and he told me one of his favorite activities when he was high was piecing together shredded documents. He said it was like the world's most complex jigsaw puzzle.

windinhishair · 61-69, M

@LordShadowfire That's precisely why Mark Meadows burned documents after a White House meeting with Trump.