The immigration crisis is worsening

@llloydfred [quote] Job1: 8-12. read it . First chapter verses 8-12. God is going to have a conversation with Satan. This is going to be out Job. Job was already a better person that feared God (Job1 verse 1- First chapter verse 1.
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I commend you for reading the Book of Job. I have read it also. I am not persuaded you have added anything to my understanding with your interpretation.

@marke Oh you don't have to commend me. Its called "That is what is Written". God gets all the praise. Your understanding is your own. God for me - Me for God.

@llloydfred [quote]Oh you don't have to commend me. Its called "That is what is Written". God gets all the praise. Your understanding is your own. God for me - Me for God.[/quote]

To borrow an important English word found only 3 times in the KJV Bible, all in Job 32, I commend you for offering your "opinion."

@Driver2 No -bus them to an airport, fly them to Mexico or a country(ies) in Central America. The money they’ll spend on these illegals if they keep them here could be used to charter aircraft and fly them back. Joe Biden’s admins did it to bring them from Texas to other states like NY, so if these mayors are aghast at these illegal immigrants flooding their cities then fly them out of our country.

@soar2newhighs yes

@marke Yes, history did not start before 1996. Keen eye.

@Graylight [quote]Yes, history did not start before 1996. Keen eye.
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I was not alive when democrat voter fraud began in the US. Here is some history:


https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/1856-vigilantes-changed-corrupt-political-system-5663654.php

1856 vigilantes changed corrupt political system

Gary Kamiya
Aug. 1, 2014
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This is a photo of "Fort Gunnybags," headquarters of the San Francisco Vigilance Committee of 1856. It was on Sacramento street between Davis and Front streets. It is one of many historic photos on exhibit at 1 Sacramento street.

The vigilantes who seized control of San Francisco in 1856 had more on their minds than exacting street justice - they wanted to change the city's entire corrupt political system. They were revolutionaries.
The Second Committee of Vigilance was formed in response to the fatal attack on a popular reforming newspaper editor - its first action was to hang the killer and his unfortunate cellmate. But the real target of the movement, which was largely made up of merchants, skilled workers and clerks,[b] was a Tammany Hall-style political machine run by a Democratic operative named David Broderick.[/b]

[b]Broderick handed out jobs to his cronies and used hired toughs to ensure that votes went his way. A few weeks after the hangings, the vigilante committee found its smoking gun: a false-bottom ballot box in the house of a Democratic activist.[/b]

For 19th century Americans, proud of their new democracy,[b] elections were sacred, and violation of the ballot box was "a crime of the darkest dye," as the Alta California newspaper put it. The box that the vigilantes seized had a secret compartment to hold extra ballots, which could be released into the main compartment by moving a hidden panel.
At least 10,000 people turned out at a mass meeting to listen to speeches and view the "amazing false-bottomed ballot box." [/b]The sacrilegious object, permanently displayed in the Committee of Vigilance's headquarters, a sandbagged building on Sacramento Street known as Fort Gunnybags, became the movement's icon.
Membership in the group swelled to as many as 8,000 men, the largest vigilante movement in U.S. history.

Swift justice
Vigilante justice, unhampered by legalisms like warrants or jury trials, was swift and implacable. As Broderick's detested political operatives walked down the street, they suddenly found themselves surrounded by armed vigilantes, given summary trials for political fraud and ballot-box stuffing, convicted and hustled onto ships in the harbor. Then they were deported.
Twenty-five or so of Broderick's cronies received this treatment, with Panama and Hawaii being popular destinations. According to historian Hubert Bancroft, the vigilantes also persuaded about 800 of the "worst characters" to leave the city, a crew composed of "thieves, murderers, corrupters of public morals, gamblers, prize-fighters,
A strange-bedfellows alliance of [b]ballot-box stuffers[/b], loafers and vagabonds." Broderick's heavily Irish, working-class supporters joined the "Chivs," Southern pro-slavery Democrats, in opposing the vigilantes. Swayed by David Terry, a ferocious, bowie-knife-wielding Chiv and state Supreme Court justice, Gov. Neely Johnson declared that San Francisco was in a "state of insurrection" and called upon all citizens to enlist in the militia to crush it.
The San Francisco branch of the state militia was commanded by a banker named William Tecumseh Sherman. He would go on to make something of a name for himself in the Civil War, but San Francisco's vigilantes proved too much for him.
Johnson planned to raise a large force and equip it with 4,000 muskets that would be provided by the military base at Benicia. Sherman located a hilltop on which he could place artillery that would destroy Fort Gunnybags.
If Johnson's plans had come to fruition, the U.S. military could have opened fire on the rebellious city of San Francisco. Sherman, however, was torn: He was sworn to uphold the law, but his fellow merchants were all vigilantes, and opposing the movement would doom his bank.

Scared of S.F.
When only a few hundred ragtag San Franciscans answered Johnson's call, Sherman resigned. He was later to utter one of the most deathless quotes in the city's history: "I can handle a hundred thousand men in battle and take the City of the Sun (Atlanta), but am afraid to manage a lot in the swamp of San Francisco."

One last bizarre twist remained in the saga. When vigilantes tried to arrest Terry, who had fomented a plan to ship arms to antivigilantes, he stabbed one of them with his bowie knife. When the vigilantes arrested Terry, they found themselves in a quandary: A state Supreme Court justice was such a big fish they didn't know what to do with him.
Fortunately, the stabbed vigilante lived, and the unrepentant Terry, who raged that he was being punished for merely sticking a knife into a "damn little Yankee well-borer," was surreptitiously released one night at 2 a.m. Fearing for his life, he took refuge on a Navy ship, the John Adams, that was anchored ominously off the Sacramento Street pier, its guns trained on Fort Gunnybags.

Farewell parade
It never had to fire a shot. On Aug. 18, 1856, the Second Committee of Vigilance voluntarily disbanded, 99 days after a fire station bell had first tolled to summon citizens to action.
As bands played, more than 6,000 armed men paraded through the flag-decked streets - a larger force, veterans remarked, than that commanded by Gen. Winfield Scott when the U.S. Army captured Mexico City in 1847. In the middle of the parade, vigilantes pulled a float carrying a large painted canvas replica of Fort Gunnybags, complete with five cannons.

The deterrent effect of the 1856 committee's actions on crime only lasted for a month or two. In October, the Alta California wrote that "crime, vice, dissipation still rear their hydra-heads in our midst. ... Offenders against law and the public weal are scarcely less numerous or successful than of old."

Lasting change
But the committee's most lasting achievement was set in motion just before it disbanded. On Aug. 11, a mass gathering listened to orators denounce the existing political parties - Democrats, Republicans, Whigs and Know-Nothings - and demand a new party. The antiparty, populist, reform-minded People's Party that formed in response swept into power in elections that fall.

Major political and fiscal reforms, including slashing bloated municipal expenditures, lowering taxes and putting the city on a pay-as-you-go basis, were implemented. The People's Party, born of the most extraordinary upheaval in the city's political history, held office for 10 years.

@missyann Votes

@soar2newhighs [quote]These sanctuary cities now face a reality that they were far removed from, unlike our southern border states now that not just a handful of illegal immigrants here and there, arrive but thousands are showing up and for all their touting being sanctuary cities, it now has a dimension these politicians never considered. Welcome to the reality of a failed immigration system and a could care less administration in D.C. Deal with it mayor Adam’s and other mayors in your sanctuary cities.[/quote]

Immigration has always been a problem because the constitution does not address it. It only provides a naturalization procedure.

A century ago both political parties were specific in addressing the immigration issue. They were completely against immigration by Asians.

In the 1870 Naturalization Act, only Whites and Black Africans could become naturalized citizens.

During WWI, the country imported Blacks from the Caribbean islands to do farm work.

In the 1950s Eisenhower had [b][i]Operation Wetback[/i][/b], which deported 300,000 to 1,100,000 Mexicans back to Mexico. They seemed to have had trouble counting.

Since then, the country has entered into all kinds of treaties covering refugees and immigrants so it is almost impossible to take a hardline against the influx of foreigners who illegally enter the country.

The first thing would be to void all of the recent treaties that deal with this issue.

The second thing would be for Congress to write new immigration laws and to bar all judicial review of them.

The third thing to do would to immediately put all apprehended illegals on planes and send them back to their countries.

The fourth thing to do would be to tell those foreign governments that if they continue to send their people here that we will take over their countries and put the leaders in prison.

Of course the blowback on those steps would be immense and it is doubtful if anyone except for a few would support such measures.

Remember, we are all in the same boat so we should always play nice and enjoy the ride and row in unison.

@llloydfred Woke? Who, other than you is talking about woke?

@llloydfred Yep, until Congress does its job, it certainly can't do any better.

@Ontheroad Thats right (wokeism), that's what contributes with democrat presidency and reps, congress and so on. Example: The Police can't police, America can't have its own supply of energy (drill oil), and children just don't go to school to learn, reading, language ,math, science instead they encounter the social woke attitude. Wokeism has taken over peoples lives. Democrat Congress is about socialism and wokeism, so a lot of them need to be voted out. Really, how many Congress members are Billionaires and will stay so, their pockets are more important than the voters. Hay heres one for you "Do you think billionaires would have a problem becoming a millionaire".

Nobody owns anything. It’s man-made construct. @marke

@Graylight
[quote]Nobody owns anything. It’s man-made construct. @marke
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Don't be silly. The Jews own the land of Judea. Americans own America. And God owns everything and everybody.

Remember to make peace with God now before He reclaims your body and spirit that He gave you.

[b]Ecclesiastes 12

1 Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy youth, while the evil days come not, nor the years draw nigh, when thou shalt say, I have no pleasure in them;

2 While the sun, or the light, or the moon, or the stars, be not darkened, nor the clouds return after the rain:

3 In the day when the keepers of the house shall tremble, and the strong men shall bow themselves, and the grinders cease because they are few, and those that look out of the windows be darkened,

4 And the doors shall be shut in the streets, when the sound of the grinding is low, and he shall rise up at the voice of the bird, and all the daughters of musick shall be brought low;

5 Also when they shall be afraid of that which is high, and fears shall be in the way, and the almond tree shall flourish, and the grasshopper shall be a burden, and desire shall fail: because man goeth to his long home, and the mourners go about the streets:

6 Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern.

7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and[/b][b][c=BF0000] the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.[/c][/b]

@marke There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Ovid

@marke nobody, not Democrats or Republicans, seem interested in addressing the root issue of illegal immigration: American business gives them jobs. They wouldn't risk everything to get here illegally if they couldn't get work. American businesses conveniently look away because they've got an instant cheap labor force. Crack down severely on these practices and watch the difference it would make. No, Biden and the Democrats aren't doing that. Neither did Trump. And meanwhile governors like Abbott and DeSantis are just playing games to score points with the MAGA crowd.

@marke Kiss off. The government DOES NOT pay for immigrants with things like welfare. They save that for the red states who take the lion's share. Immigrants CONTRIBUTE. So you're telling me you hired them? Why? Out of the goodness of your heart? Nah. Cheap labor willing to do the work that pampered, whiny white Americans won't do. You know that if you've hired. Side note dude. They're not illegals. They're fucking human beings. I'm done. No patience.

@Ynotisay I think DeSantis is to be congratulated for seeking to find immigrants homes in American neighborhoods that are not already infested with crime and poverty.

@Stereoguy
[quote]Now the Democrats are looking into charging Abbott and DeSantis with criminal charges for bussing the the illegal immigrants to Democrat run "Sanctuary" cities. It looks like they really don't want them either m
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In our modern stolen election Democrat Socialist Fascist Union of Leftist Racists anyone disagreeing with democrat policies is accused by the Democrat Gestapo of treason, sedition, and high crimes and misdemeanors. Any favored democrat who commits crimes against Americans is not held accountable by the Democrat State Police for breaking the law.

@Diotrephes [quote]Slavery is a bad economic system because it restricts the ability of non-slave owners to make money doing a variety of jobs. That results in a poorer society if slavery is wide-spread.
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In ancient history, slavery was sometimes the only option to dying of starvation. Family members either sold themselves or other family members into slavery to prevent starvation.

@marke Conditions will get harsh over the coming years. Do you think people will revert to becoming slaves in order to exist?

@Diotrephes [quote]Conditions will get harsh over the coming years. Do you think people will revert to becoming slaves in order to exist?
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Slavery does exist in communist nations like China and North Korea. Democrats fought the Civil War to preserve slavery and leftists in America are promoting slavery through communism today. Leftists should appreciate American rights and freedoms more instead of attempting to make things better by destroying them.

I don’t know. What’s it like in the cult compound? @llloydfred

@marke unless they came to a functional country.

@Roundandroundwego [quote]unless they came to a functional country.[/quote]

Ii wouldn't take long for millions of unemployable homeless immigrants to bankrupt any nation's welfare system.

@Roundandroundwego [quote] unless they came to a functional country. [/quote]

Bankrupting the economy by exploding welfare costs will turn a functional country into a dysfunctional country.

@marke Entertainment

@MarmeeMarch[quote] No kidding - Is the news supposed to say - The Immigration problem in this administration is in totally under control ?
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The leftist media claims there is no immigration crisis but they propagate that lie because the truth about the crisis damages Biden's facade of good leadership.

@swirlie Wow, wow, You to have also notice this. So, nomads, drug cartels, 3rd world terrorist ,rogue like leaders must look at this country as a theme-park, a giant mall, a video games, A great ATM. and so-on. the best of entertainment, Wow.