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How do Trump supporters feel about Tim McVeigh?

No doubt McVeigh would have been a Trump supporter. And since it seems most Trump supporters and republicans sympathize with the Jan 6th insurrectionists, how do they feel now about McVeigh?

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Graylight · 51-55, F

He resented what he saw as corrupt government and totalitarian control. He knew things had to change and felt the US government was his enemy. And he took action, because freedom and patriotism don't fold to laws enforced by the unjust.

A guy from Jan. 6 or Tim McVeigh? Who can tell? And still they won't understand.

Budwick · 70-79, M

Oh Boy! It's story time at the Marxist Zoo!

OK, Once upon a time they put Timothy McVeigh to death, for murdering 168 people in the Oklahoma bombing. For his last meal, McVeigh ate two pints of mint chocolate chip ice cream.

That ignited interest in ice cream in two of Timothy McVeigh's biggest fans, Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden. Nancy worked hard to buy a commercial size freezer to store her ice cream. Joe, became president of the United States and is always preoccupied with the thoughts of destroying America. Joe would reward himself often with ice cream.

In a twist of fate both Nancy and Joe were the first and second persons found guilty of high treason and executed later that afternoon in the same facility where McVeigh was terminated.

The End

MrSmooTh · 31-35, M

Yeah I actually agreed with a lot of McVeigh's ideas, except for killing a bunch of innocent people. That wasn't the right way to go about it. Neither is burning down a whole city in "protest". It just goes to show you too far left and too far right are both bad.

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MrSmooTh · 31-35, M

@Graylight and Im not going to sit here and argue with you damn people. Im going to vote the way I vote and you're going to vote the way you vote. I could give a shit less about changing your opinion and you damn sure aren't changing mine.

Graylight · 51-55, F

@MrSmooTh You don't have to sit here and argue. That facts aren't in question.

I could show you fire damage in a supply closet - doesn't mean someone torched the whole building.

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MistyCee

Nice question, but my guess is they won't know him or will treat him as as "leftist" or Marxist, much like Hitler or Mussolini and continue to call Biden a fascist because Hannity tells them to and they didn't listen much in elementary school, or maybe they rebelled against indocrination later.

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MistyCee

@marke
Whoa!

Morality is conduct that supports happy and healthy relationships in a society without hurting others by selfish behaviors.

That one really surprised me. Nothing about right and wrong and a focus on society and non-selfishness?

That seems to be to be not only pretty "liberal" of a definition, but dangerously close to socialism according to some SWeeps (that I've disagreed with).

So you think Trump supporters are using Trump, as opposed to being used by him?

marke · 70-79, M

@MistyCee

That one really surprised me. Nothing about right and wrong and a focus on society and non-selfishness?
That seems to be to be not only pretty "liberal" of a definition, but dangerously close to socialism according to some SWeeps (that I've disagreed with).
So you think Trump supporters are using Trump, as opposed to being used by him?

I don't agree with your view. I said morality supports happy and healthy relationships and does no harm to others through selfishness. I don't understand your negative response to my definition. Morality does not negatively impact capitalism.

Trump, unlike Hillary, ran on views and values most widely shared by most Americans. He came on the scene looking for positions to support that could get him elected. He did not come on the scene spouting views that tens of millions of Americans blindly accepted just because he was Trump. That notion is ridiculous.

MistyCee

@marke We're likely going to end up disagreeing on what Trump ran on, but before we go there, I'm not at all giving a negative response to your definition of morality. I didn't expect non selfishness and the value of society or not causing harm to others to come up at all. I'm surprised, but actually kind of pleased with that one.

I'm really intrigued though, by your idea of "Trump coming on the scene looking for positions to support that could get him elected.". That too, is something I sort of agree with.

TexChik · F

How do Biden supporters feel about Jeffrey Dahmer? I mean most Biden supporters and democrats sympathize with murderers, criminals, and the LBGTQ. How many cashless bails would Dahmer get ? 5 ? 20? Or until he ate the wrong democrat?

🙄🙄🙄

trollslayer · 46-50, M

@TexChik Blah blah blah. That's a very shitty attempt at deflection.

TexChik · F

@trollslayer Not at foul mouth. Democrats are all about not enforcing the law unless it suits them . There are far too many incidences for you to plausibly deny it. McVeigh had a beef with the Clinton DOJ . The Ruby Ridge and Waco massacres could easily have been avoided . However McVeigh killed innocent people including a day care center full of children . He deserved the death penalty. Trump supporters of today didn’t support him then or now .

trollslayer · 46-50, M

And still none of you MAGA minions can come here and say "I am a Trump supporter, but what McVeigh stood for and what he did are wrong." Instead you all sound a lot like Marge Schott defending Adolf Hitler.

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LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

@trollslayer I don't know what you were expecting, but there's the standard selfie from @MarmeeMarch.

HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M

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HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M

@marke I agree. But what does that have to do with the post?

marke · 70-79, M

@HoraceGreenley

I agree. But what does that have to do with the post?

The conversation was drifting toward visible signs of violence in America. I simply pointed out that violence is committed by people who have not been properly taught to fear God. I blame the secularist idea that God must be isolated from schools, politics, and society in general by a wall of separation between God and society for the widespread indoctrination of uncivilized behaviors in American classrooms.

HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M

@marke This particular thread had no connection to violence, which is why I was confused.

Having said that, I do agree with you.

DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F

And since it seems most Trump supporters and republicans sympathize with the Jan 6th insurrectionists, how do they feel now about McVeigh?
This is a truncated preview of the original post.

Nice “fact” you just made up on the spot lmao

BizSuitStacy · M

@DeluxedEdition

CopperCicada · M

I really don't see the parallel between McVeigh (and Nichols) and 6 January.

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Graylight · 51-55, F

@CopperCicada On the we agree. If several hundred assjacks can make it into the Capitol Building despite being surrounded by police, how's the lone lunatic going to fare when he flies under the radar?

CopperCicada · M

@Graylight Lone lunatic? How about a small group of people who are disciplined, have tactical skills, have inside knowledge of the Capitol of some other government building, very clear objectives, and who can keep their mouths shut? Foreign or domestic.

Everything in the last couple years has been a study for real bad guys.

Graylight · 51-55, F

@CopperCicada Not to wax dramatic, but it's absolutely true: our greatest enemy is within.

TrashCat · M

McVeigh was an anti-government piece of shit and I think we all know which way he would vote. He subscribed to many of same ideologies that today's QTips subscribe to.

marke · 70-79, M

@TrashCat
DrPhibes · M

McVeigh was an anti-government piece of shit and I think we all know which way he would vote. He subscribed to many of same ideologies that today's QTips subscribe to.

McVeigh was right about the incompetence and corruption that led to the Ruby Ridge and Waco disasters. The government is not right or pure just because it is the government, as we are seeing more and more today as leftist government officials nail and jail more patriotic Americans with non-leftist views every day. But McVeigh was himself evil for trying to solve the problem his way.

Roundandroundwego · 61-69

History buffs are too stupid to go back that far right now.

LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

I don't think old Timmy boy would support any politician, to be honest. He was an anarchist, plain and simple.

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checkoutanytime · M

@trollslayer not all government, over reach of government is really the opposition. But everyone knows the guy was a threat to society, and was lucky he lived to see a trial.

trollslayer · 46-50, M

@checkoutanytime Yes, but the bar for what is considered "overreach" seems to be getting lower and lower for these folks.

checkoutanytime · M

@trollslayer

True👍 ✅️

LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

@HoraceGreenley @MarmeeMarch Do you have anything intelligent to bring to the group, or are you just going to be making faces?

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