It’s a Fact: Republican Run Red States Have America’s Highest Poverty Rates

Dems seem to have crime, repubs seem to have mass poverty. Hmmm.. seems like two scarred lovers in a battle, they both are toxic and both talk crap behind each other backs, the kids (us citizens) tend to suffer from their divorce. Politics feel somewhat like Gossip Girl 🤣

https://www.politicususa.com/2014/03/18/fact-republican-run-red-states-americas-highest-poverty-rates.html

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MistyCee

Actually, I just saw something saying Republicans had crime too, but what do facts matter anymore?

This seems like the bigger issue, embracing non-fact based reality, or, maybe, charitably, a different way of approaching facts in dealing with reality.

I'm not buying both sidesism here. I'm not sure I get the Gossip Girl analogy, but I can see it from a football one.

The "Red Team," whether they cheat or not, openly embraces, even before the game starts, that the only way they can lose is if the refs are crooked, and play the game that way, before, when the whistle blows, they say they were right and the score proves that the refs were crooked.

Honestly, maybe the blue team did cheat, maybe the refs did make bad calls, but what's the point of trying to analyze what actually happened when there's no agreement over anything unless it goes there way.

And, let's be honest, in this case, Trump would still be saying he should have won by more, even if he had won, like he did in 2016, according to the refs.

I get why everyone suffers from dishonesty, bad sportsmanship, etc, but I don't think that justifies lumping in players and coaches who honestly gave their best in the same basket as those who went into the game with the motive of impugning the whole process if it didn't go their way.

SatanBurger · 36-40, F

@MistyCee Republicans do have crime, I was just mainly writing this because there's too many people on here who want to say they're perfect. For instance republicans write about crime infested cities run by Democrats while their own areas have massive poverty.

MistyCee

@SatanBurger Last I saw, the per capita murder rates were hugely disproportionately higher in red states, but the thing is, following DT, Republicans can't concede their own guys aren't imperfect or even recognize that the other guys competing are trying.

They're functionally dumbed down by a "believe only me, the other guys are evil, and the world will end if you don't suck it up and defeat the libs/communist/socialist/democrat/jews, etc.

SatanBurger · 36-40, F

@MistyCee They do a good job of propaganda with the whole "blue states have higher crime" nonsense.

ViciDraco · 41-45, M

@MistyCee they tend to use cities for their stats because urban areas lean blue even in red states. That way they can blame the blue and not the population density. They don't talk states because then the per capita evens out real fast.

MistyCee

@SatanBurger Statistically, I'm guessing fewer Republicans can or do read, and Fox has served the movement really well in terms of helping prevent them from being contaminated by adverse information.

Murdoch had that down before Fox News, and it's been a much better winning alliance than the supposed international Jewish/Communist/Globalist/ Neocon/Elite Conspiracy that supposedly runs the other side, but which most often seems like a common interest group of non-crazy people trying to keep the world stable and work for the survival of most of humanity.

Going back to poverty and crime though, its actually a pretty complicated issue, because people who need them go to where there are services and infrastructure, which means usually cities, and they tend to vote Democrat, while Republicans have been living off of the rural areas and the white flight suburbs where people have gone to get away from crime and people who commit crime to get by.

As we mature, expand and fill up, though, and the effects of the GI bill and the New Society era stuff wear off, I'm guessing we'll eventually end up looking more like Europe, things are less black and white and policies as opposed to nationally workable propganda schemes or ideologies matter more.

The Urban/Suburban/rural thing will probably be the focus, imo, for the next few decades, but I doubt it will last once the suburbs and the cities merge and the truly rural areas become insignificant except in the Senate.

Honestly, I think Jefferson had some really great romantic ideas, but Hamilton forecast the future.