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For those of you who are against mandated vaccination...are you also against mandated pregnancy?

If you're arguing your body, your choice when it comes to vaccines would you argue the same for a woman's right to choose what happens to her body in terms of reproduction?
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SW-User
I don’t trust corrupt governments to make a choice over my body, the vaccines are poison ☠️
One day when it’s too late, you’ll see ⏳ biggest scam in history.
Zonuss · 46-50, M
@SW-User Yep.
@SW-User

There are a certain proportion of people who will always cry conspiracy and have done so on pretty much every vaccine from polio to swine flu.
That's ok, as long a you stay the minority, the majority will be protected.
SW-User
@Pikachu

https://rumble.com/v1l917r-us-calculated-vaers-data-over-7.2-mm-hospitalized-1.2-mm-dead-2.3-mm-perm-d.html

It’s not a conspiracy, the governments want to cull the people.
All working together, the MSM hide the truth.
Sadly people believe it.
@SW-User

the governments want to cull the people.
All working together, the MSM hide the truth

Ok, dear.
Zonuss · 46-50, M
@SW-User Not all Fairy
Some are waking up.
@Zonuss

You tell those globe heads!🤣
Sorry, wrong conspiracy lol
SW-User
@Zonuss

I hope so!

@Pikachu https://rumble.com/v1jvd53-zero-compromise.-doctors-shoemaker-and-trozzi.html
Graylight · 51-55, F
@SW-User Remember that when - God forbid - you or someone you love needs the cancer treatment developed as a result of mRNA technology.
SW-User
@Graylight

What makes you think I’d go for treatment?

Personally I believe the drugs people take and the poison they put in the food and environment cause cancer.
Everyone I know that’s on medication 💊 eventually gets sick.

The cure is the disease, that’s just my opinion.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@SW-User Fair enough, but it hardly speaks to the heart of the post, does it?
SW-User
@Graylight I’m against mandates, people should be able to make their own decisions about their body… simple. 👍🏻
Graylight · 51-55, F
@SW-User But that bears some definition and clarification, doesn't it? Because too many people felt their right to personal freedom somehow trumped legal precedence, historical record and current science regarding public safety. 6.5 million deaths couldn't even sway them.

We live in a culture fostered by a government of consensus. Anarchy in the US is not a viable choice.
SW-User
@Graylight
6 million didn’t die though, they lied about the total of deaths.

Most of covid was built on lies.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@SW-User Please, then, show the sources, research, statistics or evidence that supports this assertion. I'm willing to look at anything.
SW-User
@Graylight
If someone got shot and is taken to hospital, they test them on arrival, get a positive reading, they die due to the gun shot wound, they put covid down on the death certificate.
Thats not a true reading of the death rates of covid now is it?
they died with covid and not from covid.
Cancer patients that had months to live…
Heart attacks
Car accidents
Old age

I don’t understand why you trust them, they lied when they said “you won’t get covid if you get the vaccine”.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@SW-User Not true. To have this argument, you have to understand how contributing and underlying conditions are recorded and weighted.

No one who dies from a gunshot wound has Covid listed on their death certificate, as per your example. If you come into the hospital with severe pneumonia, and that pneumonia is a complication of an existing issue, say, diverticulosis, then your death certificate would read cause of death: Pneumonia due to complications of diverticulosis. If not for Covid, in other words, this patient, compromised as he was, was not in imminent danger of death. A contributing cause is just that. Does obesity kill a person outright? Normally not, but it can make Covid worse, which would make it a contributing factor even if it alone might have killed the patient eventually.

If you're not clear on contributing factors and how a cause of death is determined, please look into it, because you guys got it all wrong.

No one said a vaccine would eliminate the risk of Covid. No one. Not only single vaccine or immunization has ever - even once - been 100% effective. That's a myth made up by conservatives and passed around as truth. Medicine and science simply don't work like that.

615 millions cases. 6.5 million deaths, one of my family members among them. 228 Countries and Territories reporting Covid. And all that continues to mount even as we stop testing and worrying about it because we're bored. New cases each day, new deaths each day. Conservatives continue to believe election fraud lies without even the 1st shred of proof, yet the numbers above don't seem to be able to sway them. Nothing like 4 billion people pulling a prank on only the conservatives.
@Graylight

Well said. It's conspiracy nut nonsense to say that people were regularly being assigned covid as cause of death for things like car accidents.
But people who had been living stably with a heart condition who then died after catching covid? Yeah, covid will be put down as a contributing factor.
SW-User
@Graylight
I disagree with you, it has happened, a whistleblower nurse came forward and stated this.
I’ve known people who have family die and covid was on the death certificate, they didn’t die from covid, they just happened to have it.



@Pikachu

One day you’ll see the conspiracy nuts or truth tellers I prefer, were in fact telling the truth.
It’s sad people can’t see the truth!
This has been in place before you were born, brainwashed into believing the corruption. 📺 🗞

it’s all BS and you don’t have to be a scientist to see that.

The vaccine has killed thousands if not millions, it’s genocide.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@SW-User Name the nurse, the hospital worked at or the nature of the action. Otherwise, it stands as urban myth.
SW-User
@Graylight
[media=https://youtu.be/hx2FFPhbNIY]

There you go.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@SW-User Project Veritas is an American far-right activist group founded by James O'Keefe in 2010. The group produces deceptively edited videos of its undercover operations, which use secret recordings in an effort to discredit mainstream media organizations and progressive groups. Project Veritas also uses entrapment to generate bad publicity for its targets, and has propagated disinformation and conspiracy theories in its videos and operations.

Project Veritas released a series of videos, starting on 20 September 2021 and finishing on 6 October 2021, with millions of views on YouTube, showing nurse Jodi O'Malley, who works for the Indian Health Service in Arizona, speaking with a doctor identified as Maria Gonzales. Gonzales can be heard saying: "All this is bullshit. Now, [a patient] probably [has] myocarditis due to the vaccine. But now, they are not going to blame the vaccine, they are not reporting it. They want to shove it under the mat.” Claims that the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) fails to register reports are misleading. VAERS, which currently contains over 720,000 reports, was designed for purposes of early warning and it may contain "incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable" information.
Despite minor challenges, data from VAERS still is helpful to health regulators such as the CDC and the FDA in their search for vaccine-related adverse effects.

A YouTube video, on any planet in any solar system, is not a legitimate source.

Below are those things I was referring to - sources:
"Project Veritas amplifies false vaccine information in latest video". First Draft. First Draft. September 23, 2021.
Tardáguila, Cristina. "5 videos "investigativos" suman 65 minutos de engaños sobre la pandemia y las vacunas". Univision (in Spanish). Retrieved November 17, 2021.


Singleton, J (July 16, 1999). "An overview of the vaccine adverse event reporting system (VAERS) as a surveillance system". Vaccine. 17 (22): 2908–2917. doi:10.1016/S0264-410X(99)00132-2. PMID 10438063.
Goss, Brian Michael (March 12, 2018). "Veritable Flak Mill". Journalism Studies. 19 (4): 548–563.

Bennett, W. Lance; Livingston, Steven (October 2020). "The Coordinated Attack on Authoritative Institutions". The Disinformation Age. Cambridge University Press. pp. 261–294. Retrieved January 30, 2021.

Damann, Taylor (January 8, 2019). "Project Veritas and the Changing Face of Fake News". Gateway Journalism Review. Southern Illinois University Carbondale. 47 (351). ISSN 2158-7345. Archived from the original on October 8, 2021.
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@SW-User

I don't doubt that you believe that. You wouldn't be a conspiracy theorist if you didn't think you were right.
But remember that the flat earthers are every bit as convinced that they have uncovered the truth.🤷‍♀️
SW-User
I’m not going to argue with you, we both have different views, that was one video, I still believe the death numbers are fraudulent.
I just don’t trust the whole process of covid and the vaccines, the vaccines are causing harm and deaths.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@SW-User I don't want to argue either, because I think our positions are firm. But a caution - there are not two sides to every story. Sometimes there are just facts and alternate realities.
SW-User
@Graylight

Question everything, just because the so called experts tell you whatever, doesn’t mean they are facts.
I just see the world differently.