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Torsten · 36-40, M
its not just her body though, so i dont get the logic of this
@Torsten
No, it is just her body when it comes to the government telling her what she must do with it.
No person has the right to make use of another person's body so even if you consider the fetus a person it is still violating a woman's right over her own body to force her to carry a pregnancy.
No, it is just her body when it comes to the government telling her what she must do with it.
No person has the right to make use of another person's body so even if you consider the fetus a person it is still violating a woman's right over her own body to force her to carry a pregnancy.
Torsten · 36-40, M
@Pikachu difference is the women got herself in that situation by her actions for the most part. The fetus/baby had no choice in it and no its not just the womens body when life is growing inside of her.
Honestly at this point just tired of some women taking no accountability for their own actions in regard to this.
Honestly at this point just tired of some women taking no accountability for their own actions in regard to this.
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Torsten · 36-40, M
@Pikachu when you bring up abortions in discussions, no doubt you will hear all diff opinions on it but frankly what does it really matter. Men are told we have no say in this and our thoughts mean jack shit, so why do women still get annoyed when men speak on this and say things they dont want to hear?
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Torsten Men have plenty of say in this.
The exact same truth applies to men. Do you want a say? Great. Mandatory: childcare, medical costs, clothing, groceries, entertainment, education, hobbies and sports, special needs, ER visits, clubs requiring fees, auto and insurance costs, prom, birthdays and holidays, higher education, a wedding... 50% automatically responsible. And if you don't like Mom's choices, you're free to move in a make a cozy little life of three people who never asked for the situation. No exceptions, no hardship cases, no second thoughts, no luxuries reserved for young people with little to no responsibility. Are you 17? Sorry, sucks for you. 61? Welcome to late fatherhood. Already married? Not planning on a family? Waiting for the big promotion? Waiting to travel the world? All that's on hold, courtesy of the US government. You're a mandated father now.
You don't get much say in this because the situation is simply not one you can adequately appreciate. A clump of cells the size of a little finger is not a "baby" or "child" or viable or thinking. At 6 weeks, it's a growth on the woman's uterus that cannot exist without it's near-parasitic dependance on her.
the women got herself in that situation by her actions for the most part.
The exact same truth applies to men. Do you want a say? Great. Mandatory: childcare, medical costs, clothing, groceries, entertainment, education, hobbies and sports, special needs, ER visits, clubs requiring fees, auto and insurance costs, prom, birthdays and holidays, higher education, a wedding... 50% automatically responsible. And if you don't like Mom's choices, you're free to move in a make a cozy little life of three people who never asked for the situation. No exceptions, no hardship cases, no second thoughts, no luxuries reserved for young people with little to no responsibility. Are you 17? Sorry, sucks for you. 61? Welcome to late fatherhood. Already married? Not planning on a family? Waiting for the big promotion? Waiting to travel the world? All that's on hold, courtesy of the US government. You're a mandated father now.
You don't get much say in this because the situation is simply not one you can adequately appreciate. A clump of cells the size of a little finger is not a "baby" or "child" or viable or thinking. At 6 weeks, it's a growth on the woman's uterus that cannot exist without it's near-parasitic dependance on her.