New Florida Teacher Training Aims To Indoctrinate Educators With Conservative Ideology

Even if the founding fathers wanted religion in state much like a theocracy, they still wouldn't be morally right to impose religious values on anyone else. I don't owe any religious nutcase anything, they never did anything for me. This is a case of people demanding respect without giving it, they just want to take like thugs and for America to be a theocracy. How about I don't care about your excuse of the founding fathers, they're dead.

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Harmonium1923 · 51-55, M

The founding fathers did not want religion to be part of the state, let alone for it to be a theocracy. Thomas Jefferson authored the Virginia Statute on Religious Freedom, which was a precursor to the "establishment clause" in the First Amendment to the Constitution that formalized the separation of Church and State. (He was so proud of that achievement it was engraved as part of his epitaph.) The First Amendment got rid of previous requirements in some state constitutions that voters or officeholder had to be Christians, or Protestant Christians, or any other form of religious test. Even the quasi-religious language in documents like the Declaration of Independence (speaking of inalienable rights "endowed by their Creator") is very intentionally ecumenical and non-Christian in its wording).

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@Harmonium1923 Where in The Constitution does it say "separation of church and State"?

Harmonium1923 · 51-55, M

@sunsporter1649 Those were your quotation marks not mine. I referred to the establishment clause of the first amendment.

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@Harmonium1923 If you look real close, it says freedom of religion, not freedom from religion

Harmonium1923 · 51-55, M

@sunsporter1649 It says neither of those things, if you actually read it.

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@Harmonium1923 Freedom of religion is protected by the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, which prohibits laws establishing a national religion or impeding the free exercise of religion for its citizens.

The Fourteenth Amendment, adopted in 1868, extended religious freedom by preventing states from enacting laws that would advance or inhibit any one religion.

Harmonium1923 · 51-55, M

@sunsporter1649 Yes, I know. 🙄

SatanBurger · 36-40, F

@Harmonium1923 I'm glad the founding fathers didn't want religion and state together. I don't get how conservatives can blatantly lie like that.

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@SatanBurger Freedom of religion is protected by the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, which prohibits laws establishing a national religion or impeding the free exercise of religion for its citizens.

The Fourteenth Amendment, adopted in 1868, extended religious freedom by preventing states from enacting laws that would advance or inhibit any one religion.