I accidentally took home with me some top secret, national security classified documents

@hippyjoe1955 says [quote]Do you remember a lawsuit against Bill Clinton?

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/old-case-over-audio-tapes-bill-clintons-sock-drawer-could-impact [/quote]

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Thanks for the link! See how well it works when you supply a link - now we're both on the same page so to speak.

I had never heard of this case; some folks sued Clinton for some personal audiotapes Clinton had made during conversations with an historian. The suit was in 2012; long after Clinton left office.

How is this case different from Trump's SCI documents?

(1) The article never mentions anything "classified" about Clinton's tapes.
(2) The documents in question in Trump's case were generated by the government, printed by the government, marked "Top Secret" by the government, whereas Clinton made his own recordings (or perhaps the historian made the recordings and gave Clinton a copy; article doesn't specify).

Thanks again for the links; it all works so much better when we're on the same page, doesn't it?

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P.S.: I learned that when pressed, you CAN supply links to substantiate your claims, just like with Suncor. Therefore, it's fair for me to assume that when you refuse to supply links, it's because they don't exist. Thanks for that!!!

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[quote] The papers Trump had were not classified either. He had declassified them. He had a standing order that anything he had in his personal possession was declassifed. You do need to step out of those big red shoes for once in your life.[/quote]

Trump's former national security advisor says that "standing order" is bulllshit.
[quote]Mr. Bolton, who served as Mr. Trump’s third national security adviser over 17 months, said he had never heard of the standing order that Mr. Trump’s office claimed to have in place. It is, he said, “almost certainly a lie.”

“I was never briefed on any such order, procedure, policy when I came in,” Mr. Bolton said, adding that he had never been told of it while he was working there, and had never heard of such a thing after. “If he were to say something like that, you would have to memorialize that, so that people would know it existed,” he said.

What’s more, he pointed out, secure facilities for viewing sensitive material were constructed at Mr. Trump’s clubs in Florida and New Jersey, where he often spent weekends as president, meaning that the documents wouldn’t need to be declassified. And if they were declassified, Mr. Bolton said, they would be considered subject to public record requests.

He continued, “When somebody begins to concoct lies like this, it shows a real level of desperation.”[/quote]

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[quote]If a president declares a document declassified -[big] IT IS AND SHALL EVER REMAIN DECLASSIFIED![/big][/quote]
SORRY!!!
Neither shouting nor big text makes this claim true.

There needs to be some kind of record of the act. It needs to be "memorialized" in Bolton's words.

Even the "record" needs to be correct. Trump tweeted on Oct 6 2020 that he had declassified all Mueller Russia documents. Only he hadn't.
[quote]Donald Trump's chief of staff said Tuesday that the president told him his two tweets calling for the declassification of all documents related to the Russia investigation meant something entirely different.

Mark Meadows signed a sworn declaration that was submitted to the US District Court for the District of Columbia in response to legal challenges by BuzzFeed News, based on Trump's Oct. 6 tweets, seeking the release of thousands of pages of records from former special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation.

Meadows said Trump's tweets were related to an “authorization he had provided” to Attorney General Bill Barr to declassify documents on the genesis of the Russia probe. Meadows described the records as pertaining to “intelligence activities relating to the 2016 Presidential election and certain related matters.”

Meadows declared: "The president indicated to me that his statements on Twitter were not self-executing declassification orders and do not require the declassification release of any particular documents," including Russia investigation-related documents that BuzzFeed News has filed multiple Freedom of Information Act lawsuits for.

Last week, US District Court Judge Reggie Walton ordered the government to obtain a declaration from Trump or someone who would speak directly with the president to get the meaning behind his tweets and his intent.
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[b]https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jasonleopold/trump-russia-tweets-mark-meadows[/b]

In closing, I'd like to remind folks of a major Trump campaign promise:

"In my administration, I'm going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information," - Candidate Donald J Trump, Aug. 16, 2016, West Bend, Wisconsin

"On political corruption, we are going to restore honor to our government. In my administration, I'm going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information. No one will be above the law." - Candidate Donald J Trump, Aug. 18, 2016, Charlotte NC

"One of the first things we must do is to enforce all classification rules and to enforce all laws relating to the handling of classified information." - Candidate Donald J Trump, Sept 7, 2016, Philadelphia