Looking back, how often has social conservatism been on the right side of human rights and wellbeing vs social liberalism?

Black folks not being property, women getting to vote, gay people getting the same rights as every other citizen...these are the things that were opposed by the socially conservative and championed by the socially liberal.
These days the socially conservative like to label progressive social ideas as "woke" and this is meant to be a dirty word...but you could easily apply "woke" to the idea of treating slaves as human beings or thinking that women actually are competent adults who can vote.

If you're being honest, how often has being socially conservative proved to be on the wrong side of human well-being?

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Abstraction · 61-69, M

Oddly, it doesn't matter what the topic for conservatives in my country,
- science is distrusted, discredited and ignored;
- implement policies n ways that inevitably increase wealth of the mega-wealthy without helping the poor, the battlers, the outcasts who are treated without dignity and blamed for their situation;
- Oppose wage rises, block rises in pensions, unemployment or other safety nets for the most vulnerable in the country, whilst persecuting them with falsified 'debts', 3-5 hour phone queues to talk to govt agencies about why their income has been cut cold.
- oppose climate change legislation and coincidentally do things like a 'gas led recovery' implemented by a gas company executive appointed to head up the climate change working group;
- Oppose everything the indigenous people wanted and treated them in the most patronising manner (cashless debit card fiasco for example)
I mean I could write and write here... But Rupert Murdoch supports their misinformation campaign based on fear about taxes, hordes of immigrants, etc to get them re-elected.

LegendofPeza · 61-69, M

@Abstraction Rupert Murdoch has to be one of the most odious and malevolent characters in recent modern history. Incredibly he was allowed to export his poison from Australia first to Britain and then to the US , and that should shame all of us. Without him , Thatcher would probably never have gone on for so long , inflicting privation and misery on so many , and possibly the UK wouldn't have embarked upon its greatest ever folly by leaving the EU without the support of his newspapers. Neither would there have been a Trump Presidency with all the hell that it unleashed.

The fact that we now live in a world where facts don't matter and populists , fabulists and fascists are provided a platform for their abhorrent views simply because it makes him money is cause for near despair.

Maybe the Alex Jones judgement , or the lawsuits by Dominion against Fox will mark the beginning of a backlash against this type of behaviour , but still I'm not that confident. I imagine these conmen will carry on doing what they do , just being a little more careful from now on the way they tiptoe around the law.

Abstraction · 61-69, M

@LegendofPeza That's a good summary. You might understand me then when I say I can't think of anyone who damaged society in these countries, and democracy, more than he has. He has caused it to rot.