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MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
You have to know the type of people who think it needed amendmented.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@MrBrownstone The type of people that don't believe that "the founding fathers" were above being human and were prone to have failures? The type of people that ditched the 19th century mindset, because through progress we get smarter and wiser as we continue to gain more knowledge about our excistence and thus don't see the need to conserve everything from a time when that knowledge and insight didn't excist? ... like, smart people that are open to better themselves.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@Kwek00 Smart people that actually pay for dirt?
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@MrBrownstone Pay for dirt? Is this something that you can actually substaniate and explain? or just one of thoseb biases that you are struggling with.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@Kwek00 People go to stores to buy bags of dirt. Dirt is everywhere for free.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@MrBrownstone This post is about 27 amendments added to the constitution.
Even if you disqualify the first 10 that weren't made by those founders in the very begining, we are still talking about:
[b]11th[/b] amendment, that organised [i]how you can sue the state[/i] (1795)
[b]12th[/b] amendment, that organised how [i]the president and vice-president should be chosen[/i] (1804)
[b]13th[/b] amendment, that deals with [i]abolition of slavery and involuntary servitude[/i] (1865)
[b]14th[/b] amendment, that [i]protects rights against state infringements, defines citizenship, prohibits states from interfering with privileges and immunities, requires due process and equal protection, punishes states for denying vote, and disqualifies Confederate officials and debts[/i] (1868)
[b]15th[/b] & [b]26th[/b] amendment that [i]deals with the right to vote[/i] (1870 & 1971)
[b]16th[/b] amendment, that finally [i]codified how the federal state can be funded[/i] (1913)
[b]17th[/b] amendment, that makes sure [i]you can vote for your senators[/i] (1913)
[b]19th[/b] amendment, that [i]gave women the right to vote[/i] (1920)
[b]20th[/b] amendment, that [i]specifies the duration of the presidency and the peacefull transitition of power[/i] (1933)
[b]22nd[/b] amendment, that [i]limits the time a person can be the head of the executive branch[/i] (1951)
[b]24th[/b] amendment, that [i]abolished poll tax requirement in federal elections[/i] (1964)
[b]25th[/b] amendment, that talks about [i]what to do when a president isn't able to perform his/her function[/i]. (1971)
... all issues that came up AFTER the constitution was drafted. Because at least the founders were aware that hey weren't perfect, that they couldn't see into the future and were flawed. And they knew this because they wrote Article V in the constitution:
[quote][b]Article V[/b]
[i]The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.[/i]
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All of these things solved issues of the past... issues that you apperently feel don't need to be sorted out because the types of people that abolised slavery were doing something vague with dirt?
Even if you disqualify the first 10 that weren't made by those founders in the very begining, we are still talking about:
[b]11th[/b] amendment, that organised [i]how you can sue the state[/i] (1795)
[b]12th[/b] amendment, that organised how [i]the president and vice-president should be chosen[/i] (1804)
[b]13th[/b] amendment, that deals with [i]abolition of slavery and involuntary servitude[/i] (1865)
[b]14th[/b] amendment, that [i]protects rights against state infringements, defines citizenship, prohibits states from interfering with privileges and immunities, requires due process and equal protection, punishes states for denying vote, and disqualifies Confederate officials and debts[/i] (1868)
[b]15th[/b] & [b]26th[/b] amendment that [i]deals with the right to vote[/i] (1870 & 1971)
[b]16th[/b] amendment, that finally [i]codified how the federal state can be funded[/i] (1913)
[b]17th[/b] amendment, that makes sure [i]you can vote for your senators[/i] (1913)
[b]19th[/b] amendment, that [i]gave women the right to vote[/i] (1920)
[b]20th[/b] amendment, that [i]specifies the duration of the presidency and the peacefull transitition of power[/i] (1933)
[b]22nd[/b] amendment, that [i]limits the time a person can be the head of the executive branch[/i] (1951)
[b]24th[/b] amendment, that [i]abolished poll tax requirement in federal elections[/i] (1964)
[b]25th[/b] amendment, that talks about [i]what to do when a president isn't able to perform his/her function[/i]. (1971)
... all issues that came up AFTER the constitution was drafted. Because at least the founders were aware that hey weren't perfect, that they couldn't see into the future and were flawed. And they knew this because they wrote Article V in the constitution:
[quote][b]Article V[/b]
[i]The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.[/i]
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All of these things solved issues of the past... issues that you apperently feel don't need to be sorted out because the types of people that abolised slavery were doing something vague with dirt?
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@Kwek00 When did I say I was against it?
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@MrBrownstone I guess "those" people are the issue, you know, those people that do vague stuff with dirt then. Those people that thought it needed to be amendment, but pay for dirt... how vague can you be?
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@Kwek00 Or people like you with poor reading comprehension issues.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@MrBrownstone that's kinda funny comming from a guy that posted a meme around about fauci, of which the article doesn't come to the conclussion that the meme emphasizes. Or the same guy that posts a book every time a statistic is posted, on "how to lie with statistics". Pretending that every stat made and used ever, is some form of deceit because he doesn't really know what it is in the book. And when called out for, also goes full Godspeed and asks the other person to proof a negative. I can misread from time to time, but you fuck up a lot more then me so I would dim it down a little when it comes to that.